Basing big metal ships?

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I think I've jsut got lucky... I still use intial plastic stands for mine... but my despoiler is on the short peg, so sits half on that and half on his rear tail fin that points downward.
 
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Thanks dudes.

I spent an hour last night drilling out the length of one of the flying stands so I can stick a 1.6mm brass rod up the middle of it.... crazy much?

I know it would do my head in if one ship had a non GW looking stand. Yeah I'm weird.

Aluminium bases sound cool though.
 
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Made 1/8" (3mm) steel welding rod posts for all of my bases. Drilled out the bases and glued the posts in and added 1/8" magnets to all the metal ships so that the posts would stay in while gaming, but are easily removable for transport and storage.

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I use a method similar to timdp, with 1/8" (3.18mm) brass rod stands. Even a direct meteorite strike won't shift 'em.

Only difference is that I superglue the brass rod into the ships rather than magnetising them.

I've found that it's actually not too hard to store BFG ships with their flight stands attached. You can usually Tetris them in. Just fold a scrap of bubble wrap around each ship first. My 1000pt Eldar fleet fits in a single microwave container. :)

(I've also found that fancy foam miniatures packing ain't great for BFG because the ships have lots of delicate antennas and things that snag on the foam. Bubble wrap is cheap and works much better in my experience.)

If you're going to use the GW plastic stands, my advice is:

1. chop off the little tab on the top
2. drill a hole in the underside of the ship wide enough to take the flight stand
3. glue the stand into the hole.

That will at least make them stronger at the top, though they might still snap off at the base with rough handling.
 

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I use a method similar to timdp, with 1/8" (3.18mm) brass rod stands. Even a direct meteorite strike won't shift 'em.

Only difference is that I superglue the brass rod into the ships rather than magnetising them.

I've found that it's actually not too hard to store BFG ships with their flight stands attached. You can usually Tetris them in. Just fold a scrap of bubble wrap around each ship first. My 1000pt Eldar fleet fits in a single microwave container. :)

(I've also found that fancy foam miniatures packing ain't great for BFG because the ships have lots of delicate antennas and things that snag on the foam. Bubble wrap is cheap and works much better in my experience.)

If you're going to use the GW plastic stands, my advice is:

1. chop off the little tab on the top
2. drill a hole in the underside of the ship wide enough to take the flight stand
3. glue the stand into the hole.

That will at least make them stronger at the top, though they might still snap off at the base with rough handling.
Great advice @Zenithfleet tricky thing is: some of the Eldar ships are so thin and delicate you’ll end up drilling the entire fuselage off them to get the wider top of the GW flying stand into them - not ideal.

Great tip on the bubble wrap storage tho, this is something I’ve been worried about myself for quite some time!
 

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Made 1/8" (3mm) steel welding rod posts for all of my bases. Drilled out the bases and glued the posts in and added 1/8" magnets to all the metal ships so that the posts would stay in while gaming, but are easily removable for transport and storage.

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@timdp the most practical solution methinks (at least for the larger ships that is!) as I mentioned before the smaller thinner Eldar escort ships won’t fit a magnet without damaging the detail. :cry:
 

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Contemplated making a mini lathe out of a power drill but went by hand. Took ages. Won't be doing it again in a hurry.
Hahahaha.

This was my plan too @Tiny !! I can’t believe you did that too! Must’ve taken ages, might try this for my three big cruisers tho, I know what you mean about the obsessive need to base them all cohesively!

I’m going to try some brass rod too I think, failing that, some nice solid nails might do the trick...
 
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@timdp the most practical solution methinks (at least for the larger ships that is!) as I mentioned before the smaller thinner Eldar escort ships won’t fit a magnet without damaging the detail. :cry:
I guess I should note that I also used 3/32" welding rod and appropriately sized magnets on the smaller ships. There is really no reason why it could not be done with 1/16" welding rod and 1.5mm magnets as well.
 
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Great advice @Zenithfleet tricky thing is: some of the Eldar ships are so thin and delicate you’ll end up drilling the entire fuselage off them to get the wider top of the GW flying stand into them - not ideal.

Great tip on the bubble wrap storage tho, this is something I’ve been worried about myself for quite some time!
Oh believe me, I know the pain of trying to replace the flight stands on delicate Eldar escorts. :eek:

(Mind you, I was using 3mm diameter brass rod, which is even wider than a GW stand.)

I had to cut the underbelly pieces of the Aconites away and drill into the main hull:

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I also managed to wreck two Hemlocks because the underpieces weren't strong enough to hold steady against the power of the power drill without breaking:

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Still, I managed to repair one Hemlock with superglue and the other ended up forming part of my space hulk, so it all turned out fine in the end.

If anyone else is putting brass rod on their Eldar escorts, I would highly recommend a thinner diameter of rod. You might need to fill in the hole in the GW base with bogfilla or something first, then drill into it to fit the rod.

In any case, power-drilling BFG metal ships can be tricky because the ship tends to spin with the spinning bit, hurting your fingers with its pointy metal points as you resist the spin. I usually wear a heavy garden glove to hold the ship with. No Goliath, me :whistle:

EDIT: One more tip about brass rod--if you use a diameter slightly wider than the hole in the GW flight bases (like I do), meaning that you have to drill out each base, you may find that the hole isn't quite at 90 degrees. This means the flight stand will lean slightly forward or backward once glued in. However, as long as you make sure that the tilt of the flight stand is toward the bow or stern, rather than to one side, it doesn't look too bad and isn't too obvious on the tabletop (at least to me).

A slight tilt to the flight stand can actually be a blessing in disguise, because the hole you've drilled in the bottom of your ship is likely to be slightly 'off' 90 degrees as well. You can use the tilt to compensate for any nose-diving your ship might otherwise be performing...
 
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New guy here to resurrect a thread by posting about a current project! This guy was was built over a year ago sat in dry dock for an age, but have finally been making some progress lately. This is one of the old metal kits, and it was a bit of a construction project. As well as the most of the metal ship parts being hand drilled and pinned I had to do something a little wonky for the base. The brass rod is bent to balance and stabilize the ship. The rod extends well into the ship and was mounted so the ship rests right at a bend in the rod and that's how it naturally balanced before I greenstuffed and super glued the hell out of it. I like it, it's a little higher, has a slight angle and gives a bit of momentum to the ship.
 

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That sounds amazing, sadly I cant see the pic mate. How much work was it to do?
 

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Lol I can't seem to get image posting right. I swear some other people can see it! The build itself was a good handful of hours though. Using the manual pin drill on all those metal parts takes a good bit of time. But I also like to be stoned and have some netflix going while I'm full shipyard mode, so it probably couldve gone quicker! Progressing on it a little bit, painting the underside is going to be the tricky part....
 
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