Battle reports, what makes a good battle report?

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Hey all, do people on here watch Necromunda Battle reports and if so what do people think makes a good one? Or is something you would like to see more of? Etc

I have been looking at various reports and even done a couple with my wife, but it's a mixed bag as to what is out there, some seem very rushed and just a monologue, some are people actually playing and searching through books etc

If anyone else has been doing there own please pop it up as I'm always intrigued by what people on here come up with and as there is no main thread for them may as well start here ;p
 
I really like how Miniature Game Montage does his Necromunda battle reports - they're pretty darn good and does the "live video style" with a voice-over narration. He's on YakTribe, but can't remember his handle...

The other guy who does excellent Necromunda battle reports is Commander Cheapskate - mostly still photos with voice-over narration. He does a good job explaining how the gangs have progressed throughout the campaign in his post-battle commentary. And he has some of the best DIY terrain!!!

These two are my favorite, and I think the reason why is that both follow relatively lengthy campaigns (as opposed to a few unrelated battle reports). They also have a good number of different gangs in each of their campaigns, so the reports don't seem too repetitive.
 
Cool I've seen MGM's will check out the other as well. @drdrybrush does good narration ones, I struggle at story telling myself but tip my hat to those Can spin a good yarn!
Double skull wargaming does some good ones too, I quite like hearing more than one voice over the course of an hour though so hoping to find some more of people playing against each other with dialogue?
 
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Aye not keen on grey plastic scenery tables! Will check guerilla next.
@mr.m does cheapskate do actual necr reports or is it just the space station zero ones, as all I could spot were gang loadout talk throughs?
 
The GMG (Guerilla Miniature Games) reports are excellent blow-by-blow accounts, with just enough editing to cut out rule checks and other bumpf. Also, rather brilliantly, they do "throw-back thursday", playing games from the 80s/90s/00s - which means there are BFG, Mordheim, Oldmunda reports...
 
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Aye not keen on grey plastic scenery tables! Will check guerilla next.
@mr.m does cheapskate do actual necr reports or is it just the space station zero ones, as all I could spot were gang loadout talk throughs?
Commander Cheapskate has a ton of actual Necromunda reports... His most recent ones were focused on outcast campaigns using the rules from Book of the Outcast. I think most of his more recent Necromunda stuff has been Ash Wastes focused, but if you scroll down through his videos I'm sure you'll see his traditional Necromunda campaigns (mostly new Necromunda).

Here is a link to his playlist for a 75 part (!) dominion campaign:
 
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Cool I've seen MGM's will check out the other as well. @drdrybrush does good narration ones, I struggle at story telling myself but tip my hat to those Can spin a good yarn!
Double skull wargaming does some good ones too, I quite like hearing more than one voice over the course of an hour though so hoping to find some more of people playing against each other with dialogue?
Made my day after a long, grim day at work 😊

Thing I'd ask is what style of game do you enjoy playing and is that also what you enjoy watching?

I love a good story (next season will have more gangs thankfully) but some folk like watching people have back and forth chat during a game (think winters SEO) really depends on what you enjoy I'd say.

Minigamemontage was the first bat reps for necromunda I watched and really enjoy because it's not all bogged down in rules etc
 
There’s so many differing styles I think it’s refreshing to just flit between them.

On a personal level I do like seeing games ‘being played’ so, dice rolls, moving of figures, all the usual stuff you do when you play. That’s particularly useful as it allows you to see the system in action as it would be if you were playing (very useful for those learning a system or wanting to see how they play before committing).

I think it’s nice to have a central leader figure too, someone who is running the game. They often chip in with rules and other info when it comes up which is also useful to see. Also a clear rundown of what’s going on at the beginning of the report and a quick summary at the end. Particularly if this is part of an ongoing series.

Editing I think should be used to nip out the padding, a real game may take two hours to play but a battle report shouldn’t really be over an hour max. Otherwise you may as well just live stream it. So yeah, you don’t have to show all the intricate admin, you can summarise that.

I think Guerilla Miniature Games do good ones as do Mini Wargaming. In the style listed above.

If you prefer the more… movie style (?)… approach, that’s cool too. Some times it can be a little hard to keep track of fighters though due to the close up nature of the shots, so an on screen map of actions would be useful.

One thing is absolutely essential: painted miniatures on painted scenery. If you’re going visual, then you 100% need to present the game well. Half painted stuff looks rough.

It doesn’t have to be at exhibition level, particularly if you’re more zoomed out but it does have to have a visual flair and allow us to distinguish the forces - that’s the whole point of miniature gaming!

You can get away with unpainted in board game reviews though. See ‘Always board, never boring’ for good examples of that style of play through.

Final thing: if it’s on YouTube or similar platforms, invest in decent cameras and make sure they’re in focus and perhaps locked off on critical angles of the table and dice tray (if in use - if not make sure we can actually see the dice results) and make sure all participants are either miked up properly or the space is miked up properly.

Once clicked on one a few years back and it was a few guys playing a game in their echo-y garage and they were clearly using the on-board camera microphone. Just awful. Unwatchable. Gave up after a minute.
 
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So the few bits that seem essential so far are;

A: Painted miniatures and terrain even if only battle ready on the terrain.

B: Steady camera, decent sound quality and good lighting.

C: Avoidance of over rules lawyering and book searching whilst camera rolling.

D: Keeping the video to around the HR mark time wise.

Preference wise it seems most people like the videos that are just narrated, rather than dialogue between two people or is that mainly due to their being less of the latter available?

With regards Necromunda reports in particular,
What are the parts people are most interested in, is it the battle itself or the pre&post battle developments that take place? The stories that set up the game etc?

I would also take that people would also prefer to see the progression of a few different gangs, rather than follow the story of one gang against various different opponents?

Also anyone else on here that do their own?

I have to admit anyone that's says "like and subscribe" or "my patreon is.." gets skipped quite quickly....
 
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Dialogue between two people is fine if the people are interesting, part of what I like about Tabletop Tactics 40k battle reports is the personalities and the back and forth, whereas Mini Wargaming suffers from some less likeable personalities.

I quite like seeing a campaign progress, and all the gangs therein, if the focus is on one gang then your relying on the viewer liking the gang being focused on more, whereas with a few gangs theres generally at least one gang out there you want to root for.
 
Not seen the tabletop tactics lot before, I have skipped past the others several times though on the same point. They and a couple of others tend to do a lot of standing in front of the camera, which frankly isn't the best idea for most hobbyists on YouTube who would myself included best be described as having a face fit for radio....
 
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Not seen the tabletop tactics lot before, I have skipped past the others several times though on the same point. They and a couple of others tend to do a lot of standing in front of the camera, which frankly isn't the best idea for most hobbyists on YouTube who would myself included best be described as having a face fit for radio....
“And a voice for silent cinema… “

Sorry, couldn’t help but finish the old joke.
 
I also quite like these guys - they seem to do 20 minute summary battle reports that cover a game that took much longer:


Allows them to focus on the more interesting aspects - i tend to watch them less because they don't do as much on the specialist game front, but they're fun to watch anyway.
 
I’m just going to throw in a recommendation to look at Little Wars TV too. They’re predominantly historical gaming but they do some really good run downs of the settings, decent filming and editing and a summary.

Here’s a video of there’s on how to film a wargame:

And here’s a game battle, Wild West across multiple tables.


Note just imagine how to apply those principles to Necromunda.
 
If it’s you and your wife, I’d think having both your voices could be a selling point. Especially if there’s some decent banter going on. (“Check out this BatRep! There’s a chick playing!”). But then again, there’s some toxic elements to our gaming community….

My only real experience with online content is a few podcasts, but I think some of the same points apply. Chronicles from the Underhive had major sound quality issues. Certain people would be almost unheard because their mic’s levels were down so low. The main host would go from a whisper to a foghorn in the same sentence because I’m assuming he was using a stationary microphone. There were a couple episodes where he donned his work headset and those were better. Sump City Radio and Guilders-Ford Radio don’t have that issue, but you can definitely tell when one host is doing remote work.

The banter on SCR is better than GFR as GFR seems to have more in-jokes based on their topic. Although I will give GFR credit for taking time to do asides to explain the in-joke.

Edit: tl;dr: make sure all sound levels are level
 
It's been great getting all this feedback, hopefully anyone else thinking of doing there own see's it all too!

We will have to invest in a good mic as although my voice cuts through most things like a chainsaw, my wifey can be a little quiet....
That has improved though as we both gain more confidence chatting at same time as getting everything else right being our main consideration.

Here was our latest attempt, I will say we did this one as a filler scenario to refill the gang roster after our first game left the gang with a rating of 620 so the chaos helots are all only cc armed to be more like Gribblies. That and so I could play with adding pictures of gang cards etc while playing, as still working out a lot of the bits on the phone app I'm doing it all through, it is just a phone cam and mic as well.

I'm going to add a more in depth pre-battle stage to next vid and add a campaign map and some other gangs to play and follow after what people have said as well.