N18 Books in revised versions?
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No, there's been some rumours of 2nd print of Judgement, but no photos or evidence.
Ironically the N18 Hardback Rulebook could do with updating, the Hive War paperback is more up to date!
Phew, with all the uncertainty and the big mess, my head is spinning and I can't see through it anymore.
Everything could be so easy and simple! For example, if you edit a book, you could post the changes on Facebook, you could provide an updated FAQ. You could even post the changes to White Dwarf for cut and paste.
When you think of the annoyance of the customers and imagine the many channels that are available to GW and compared to the small effort it takes, it is a waste of reputation, resources and money! - And experience has shown that the fish always stinks from the head.
Everything could be so easy and simple! For example, if you edit a book, you could post the changes on Facebook, you could provide an updated FAQ. You could even post the changes to White Dwarf for cut and paste.
When you think of the annoyance of the customers and imagine the many channels that are available to GW and compared to the small effort it takes, it is a waste of reputation, resources and money! - And experience has shown that the fish always stinks from the head.
Dudes... in a moment of weakness I got House of Faith from GW at its old very expensive price rather than its new extremely expensive price.
I checked the credits page. Second Printing.
So I quickly checked the list of errors and for the ones I looked at, they’ve been corrected.
Ogryn now has an actual Ogryn profile.
Zealot Promotion is only to a Redemptionist Specialist
Shotgun Inferno pg120 now has 5+ Am and Blaze.
However the Cawdor leader skills still has shooting as secondary not savant so that’s probably intended.
Now the other question I have is “is there an error list for Book of Peril”?
Because on Pg50 it talks of a “Hive Quake” if the first D66 roll is an even number. But that doesn’t exist, they clearly mean “Dome Collapse” which is on the table next to it.
So, what else is odd in this book (first printing as they doesn’t specify anything else)?
I checked the credits page. Second Printing.
So I quickly checked the list of errors and for the ones I looked at, they’ve been corrected.
Ogryn now has an actual Ogryn profile.
Zealot Promotion is only to a Redemptionist Specialist
Shotgun Inferno pg120 now has 5+ Am and Blaze.
However the Cawdor leader skills still has shooting as secondary not savant so that’s probably intended.
Now the other question I have is “is there an error list for Book of Peril”?
Because on Pg50 it talks of a “Hive Quake” if the first D66 roll is an even number. But that doesn’t exist, they clearly mean “Dome Collapse” which is on the table next to it.
So, what else is odd in this book (first printing as they doesn’t specify anything else)?
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Feel I’ve somehow missed this whole thread.
The update to Somersault in HoB is so annoying. It looks like this second printing stealth update happened at least before Jan 2022 (photo evidence first posted in this thread). April 2022 was I think the last official FAQ. But it only works for the first - for someone with the second (or later) printing, it makes no sense because the text being instructed to delete can’t be found. But the FAQ doesn’t bother to say ‘add the text we have added already to the second printing’? I don’t even understand how this is possible, or why if they knew they had made these changes, they didn’t just include these and state they had corrected in second printing onwards - surely that is good customer service and an easy win for them?
FAQ text: “Amend the text as follows: Delete ‘and the firing of weapons with the Unwieldy trait’”
FAQ’d first printing: “Somersault (Basic) – Place the fighter anywhere within 6" of their current position, provided they can see the point they wish to move to before they are placed. Note that the fighter must still adhere to the 1" rule when being placed. Using this action does not count as moving for the purposes of effects that are triggered by movementand for the firing of weapons with the Unwieldy trait.”
FAQ’d second printing: “Somersault (Basic) – Place the fighter anywhere within 6" of their current position, provided they can see the point they wish to move to before they are placed. Note that the fighter must still adhere to the 1" rule when being placed. Using this action does not count as moving for the purposes of effects that are triggered by movement. During an Activation in which the fighter makes this action, that fighter may make a Shoot (Basic) with a weapon that has the Unwieldy Trait. If they do so, apply a -1 modifier to their hit rolls.”
Ebook edition
The other frustration is that the changes in the second printing don’t seem to have been reflected in the digital ebook Editions. Or at least, if they have, you also need to re-buy that, as I’ve just tried to re-download the copy I have already purchased (in August 2020) and it is the 1st printing, unrevised text.
The update to Somersault in HoB is so annoying. It looks like this second printing stealth update happened at least before Jan 2022 (photo evidence first posted in this thread). April 2022 was I think the last official FAQ. But it only works for the first - for someone with the second (or later) printing, it makes no sense because the text being instructed to delete can’t be found. But the FAQ doesn’t bother to say ‘add the text we have added already to the second printing’? I don’t even understand how this is possible, or why if they knew they had made these changes, they didn’t just include these and state they had corrected in second printing onwards - surely that is good customer service and an easy win for them?
FAQ text: “Amend the text as follows: Delete ‘and the firing of weapons with the Unwieldy trait’”
FAQ’d first printing: “Somersault (Basic) – Place the fighter anywhere within 6" of their current position, provided they can see the point they wish to move to before they are placed. Note that the fighter must still adhere to the 1" rule when being placed. Using this action does not count as moving for the purposes of effects that are triggered by movement
FAQ’d second printing: “Somersault (Basic) – Place the fighter anywhere within 6" of their current position, provided they can see the point they wish to move to before they are placed. Note that the fighter must still adhere to the 1" rule when being placed. Using this action does not count as moving for the purposes of effects that are triggered by movement. During an Activation in which the fighter makes this action, that fighter may make a Shoot (Basic) with a weapon that has the Unwieldy Trait. If they do so, apply a -1 modifier to their hit rolls.”
Ebook edition
The other frustration is that the changes in the second printing don’t seem to have been reflected in the digital ebook Editions. Or at least, if they have, you also need to re-buy that, as I’ve just tried to re-download the copy I have already purchased (in August 2020) and it is the 1st printing, unrevised text.
Ah the mysterious Second Printings.
I don’t think GW has ever actually acknowledged they exist, or rather that another batch was printed with updated text.
I’m not sure we ever fully established if all the House books had a revised second printing or if it was only some, same goes for the “Book of” range. If it’s only some… that’s weird.
Certainly there is no way to determine if you have one unless the information page says it is (all books are shrink wrapped so you can’t tell until you buy it if is the older one with mistakes).
Sad to read that the digital versions are still stuck at the first version as they should be the easiest to update!
I don’t think GW has ever actually acknowledged they exist, or rather that another batch was printed with updated text.
I’m not sure we ever fully established if all the House books had a revised second printing or if it was only some, same goes for the “Book of” range. If it’s only some… that’s weird.
Certainly there is no way to determine if you have one unless the information page says it is (all books are shrink wrapped so you can’t tell until you buy it if is the older one with mistakes).
Sad to read that the digital versions are still stuck at the first version as they should be the easiest to update!
It should be easy to update digital version. FAQ should work on both. Would be good to share info that a book is in 2nd print. GW did none of this. And customer support explicitly denied 2nd print even existing. Funny to prove them wrong with photo evidence from yaktribe 
