N18 CGC Butcher rotary saw

[TOMITCHE]

Hi

Wanted your advice whether the below is legal.

Butcher armed with fighting knife and rotary saw which isn’t unwieldy but is 2 handed and versatile.

Butcher chargers enemy Ganger and would get 2 attacks with +1 for charging and +1 for dual wielding.

As the fighting knife isn’t in range I would use the rotary flensing saw with 4 attacks at versatile range up to 4” away. Essentially attaining an extra attack for just 15 credits.

Is this correct or because I simply can’t use the knife (2hands on rotary flensing saw) I don’t get the extra attack.

The flensing saw isn’t unwieldy so bulging biceps skill means I can’t use it with 1 hand as it only effects unwieldy weapons.

What’s your thoughts?

 

[Hobo86]

you only get the extra attack in melee/non-versatile range

RAW:
-you can equip 2 rotary flensing saws and get you full complement of attacks at versatile range
-you can attack from versatile range, not receiving an additional attack for an extra weapon (as you're not using it)
-you can attack from non-versatile melee range and get an extra attack for using 2 weapons

 

[TopsyKretts]

The reason you get +1 A for dual wielding is because you attack with both hands! If the knife is out of reach, you don't attack with both hands.

 

[Xisor_of_Karak_Izor]

I always thought it was a bit rubbish that you can't get a +1 from two weapons with pistols whilst doing Versatile, but the conditions aren't Versatile are awkward enough that thinking about it at all is irritating in its way.

It's not even hard, it's just not as simple either, and it feels like it should be fairly simple. You know?

(Sidearm gives Versatile up to half their short range? All pistol prices suddenly leap by good amount! )

 

[MusingWarboss]

Sidearm gives Versatile up to half their short range? All pistol prices suddenly leap by good amount! )

Maybe not all pistols but how about - hand flamers! They already cost loads and use a template so just let them spray a load of flame back.

I can understand why they don’t allow pistols to have versatile because it sorts devalues shooting and combat by blurring them both.

You can come up with all sorts of scenarios that make using a pistol that way viable and not viable - with examples but somewhere you have to draw the line otherwise you have people “hand to hand” fighting with reaction attacks over a 12” distance, which isn’t what’s intended.

 

[Xisor_of_Karak_Izor]

... somewhere you have to draw the line otherwise you have people “hand to hand” fighting with reaction attacks over a 12” distance, which isn’t what’s intended.

I that respect, I think you're 100% right.

Shooting should get reaction attacks!

 

[MusingWarboss]

I that respect, I think you're 100% right.

Shooting should get reaction attacks!

Generally in Necromunda if you get shot at, you have a little lie down!

 

[Lunarcruiser]

Generally in Necromunda if you get shot at, you have a little lie down!

Only a little lie down?
You obviously aren't shooting them with a big enough gun.

Now where is my plasma cannon?

 

[Hobo86]

don't forget the little flamedance

 

[MusingWarboss]

Only a little lie down?
You obviously aren't shooting them with a big enough gun.

Now where is my plasma cannon?

When I try that it’s usually my guy who has to have the lie down afterwards.

 

[Lunarcruiser]

When I try that it’s usually my guy who has to have the lie down afterwards.

Isn't that why you bought that meat shield/ablative armour? To absorb the fire first?

Wait what do you use juves for?

 

[MusingWarboss]

Isn't that why you bought that meat shield/ablative armour? To absorb the fire first?

Wait what do you use juves for?

They don’t help when the gun firing blows up is owner!