N18 Could you have?
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or a malstrain + genestealer list ?
or an escher cult that's malstrain + chaotic + criminal alliance ?
how far could you stack?
(purely a mental exercise)
Sounds like a familiar topic
N18 - Variant gang combinations
Over the years there are several ways to play existing gangs in new ways. For example: Genestealer Cult infected Malstrain corrupted Chaos corrupted Secundan Incursion Saint's Crusade However, there are not much rules to speak of to limit these. And people are already reporting about using...
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True but it could be nice to look at it with a fresh approach. I thinks the first step is to find witch affiliations is incompatible with another one.
RAW much of the limitations depend on when gangs were released but this should be it
(squat, nomads and palanites are somewhat underrepresented in this) :
chaos / gene-stealer corrupted:
house gangs
malstrain infected:
house gangs, corpse grinder cult, palanite enforcer & badzone enforcers
outlaw gangs:
automatically for chaos corrupted / helot, corpse grinder cult
can be taken by any other gangs
crusading gangs:
can not be taken by chaos corrupted, helot, genestealer corrupted, genestealer cult, corpse grinder
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noble house, guild and criminal alliances is a list onto itself...
(squat, nomads and palanites are somewhat underrepresented in this) :
chaos / gene-stealer corrupted:
house gangs
malstrain infected:
house gangs, corpse grinder cult, palanite enforcer & badzone enforcers
outlaw gangs:
automatically for chaos corrupted / helot, corpse grinder cult
can be taken by any other gangs
crusading gangs:
can not be taken by chaos corrupted, helot, genestealer corrupted, genestealer cult, corpse grinder
_____________
noble house, guild and criminal alliances is a list onto itself...
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the above was RAW, some combinations like chaos corrupted palanites is RAW impossible,
but I suppose that could be house ruled?
Let's stick to RAW first.
Edit: So something like:Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks)
Edit: So something like:Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks)
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I've previously made this matrix:
| GSC Infected | Malstrain Infected | Chaos Corrupted | Secundan Incursion | Saint's Crusade | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| GSC Infected | - | Yes? | Yes? | Yes? | No | |
| Malstrain Infected | Yes? | - | Yes? | Yes? | No? | |
| Chaos Corrupted | Yes? | Yes? |
| Yes? | No | |
| Secundan Incursion | Yes? | Yes? | Yes? |
| Yes? | |
| Saint's Crusade | No | No? | No | Yes? | - |
With some IA help to check my own result because i like to be transparent. It took me a long time that's why i didn't answer right away.
GANG SHEETS
Escher
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
Goliaths
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
Orlocks
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
Van Saar
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
Cawdor
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
Delaque
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
Palanite Enforcers
Uncorrupted
Ironhead Squat Prospectors
Venator Gang
Ratling Gang (Venator Apocrypha)
Beastman Gang (Venator Apocrypha)
Ash Waste Nomads
Slave Ogryn Gang
Underhive Outcasts
Mutant Outcast Gang (Apocrypha)
Helot Chaos Cult
Genestealer Cult (dedicated gang)
Corpse Grinder Cult
Malstrain Gang (pure)
Spyre Hunting Party
GANG SHEETS
Escher
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
- Escher
- Outlaw Escher
- Secundan Incursion Escher
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Saint’s Crusade Escher
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Escher
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Escher
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Chaos-corrupted Outlaw Escher
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Genestealer-infected Outlaw Escher
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Escher
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Escher
Goliaths
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
- Goliaths
- Outlaw Goliaths
- Secundan Incursion Goliaths
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Saint’s Crusade Goliaths
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Goliaths
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Goliaths
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Chaos-corrupted Outlaw Goliaths
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Genestealer-infected Outlaw Goliaths
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Goliaths
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Goliaths
Orlocks
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
- Orlocks
- Outlaw Orlocks
- Secundan Incursion Orlocks
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Saint’s Crusade Orlocks
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Orlocks
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Orlocks
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Chaos-corrupted Outlaw Orlocks
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Genestealer-infected Outlaw Orlocks
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Orlocks
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Orlocks
Van Saar
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
- Van Saar
- Outlaw Van Saar
- Secundan Incursion Van Saar
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Saint’s Crusade Van Saar
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Van Saar
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Van Saar
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Chaos-corrupted Outlaw Van Saar
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Genestealer-infected Outlaw Van Saar
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Van Saar
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Van Saar
Cawdor
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
- Cawdor
- Outlaw Cawdor
- Secundan Incursion Cawdor
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Saint’s Crusade Cawdor
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Cawdor
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Cawdor
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Chaos-corrupted Outlaw Cawdor
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Genestealer-infected Outlaw Cawdor
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Cawdor
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Cawdor
Delaque
Uncorrupted, no Secundan, no Crusade
- Delaque
- Outlaw Delaque
- Secundan Incursion Delaque
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Saint’s Crusade Delaque
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Delaque
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Delaque
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Chaos-corrupted Outlaw Delaque
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Genestealer-infected Outlaw Delaque
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Delaque
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Chaos-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Genestealer-infected Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Delaque
Palanite Enforcers
Uncorrupted
- Palanite Enforcers
- Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Secundan Incursion Palanite Enforcers
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Saint’s Crusade Palanite Enforcers
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Palanite Enforcers
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Malstrain-corrupted Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Malstrain-corrupted Secundan Incursion Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Palanite Enforcers
Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Outlaw Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Secundan Incursion Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Saint’s Crusade Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Ironhead Squat Prospectors
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Ironhead Squat Prospectors
Venator Gang
- Venator Gang
- Outlaw Venator Gang
- Secundan Incursion Venator Gang
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Venator Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Venator Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Venator Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Venator Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Venator Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Venator Gang
Ratling Gang (Venator Apocrypha)
- Ratling Gang
- Outlaw Ratling Gang
- Secundan Incursion Ratling Gang
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Ratling Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Ratling Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Ratling Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Ratling Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Ratling Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Ratling Gang
Beastman Gang (Venator Apocrypha)
- Beastman Gang
- Outlaw Beastman Gang
- Secundan Incursion Beastman Gang
- Secundan Incursion Outlaw Beastman Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Beastman Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Beastman Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Beastman Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Beastman Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Secundan Incursion Outlaw Beastman Gang
Ash Waste Nomads
- Ash Waste Nomads
- Outlaw Ash Waste Nomads
- Saint’s Crusade Ash Waste Nomads
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Ash Waste Nomads
Slave Ogryn Gang
- Slave Ogryn Gang Outlaw
- Saint’s Crusade Slave Ogryn Gang Outlaw
Underhive Outcasts
- Underhive Outcasts
- Outlaw Underhive Outcasts
- Saint’s Crusade Underhive Outcasts
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Underhive Outcasts
Mutant Outcast Gang (Apocrypha)
- Mutant Outcast Gang
- Outlaw Mutant Outcast Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Mutant Outcast Gang
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Mutant Outcast Gang
Helot Chaos Cult
- Helot Chaos Cult Outlaw
Genestealer Cult (dedicated gang)
- Genestealer Cult Outlaw
Corpse Grinder Cult
- Corpse Grinder Cult Outlaw
- Malstrain-corrupted Corpse Grinder Cult Outlaw
Malstrain Gang (pure)
- Malstrain Gang Outlaw
Spyre Hunting Party
- Spyre Hunting Party
- Outlaw Spyre Hunting Party
- Saint’s Crusade Spyre Hunting Party
- Saint’s Crusade Outlaw Spyre Hunting Party
Could you have an Ogryn Venator with a pair of lightning claws in an campaign? I don't see why not but maybe i miss something.
Yes. In fact if it was the leader they could start with them as they can access up to rare 11 items during gang creation.
Could you have a venator leader from house Orlock with a wrecker jump pack through his legacy or none at all. I remember vaguely the house of iron book. I have a fun concept for a venator list but I may change the house. I need a jump/fly unit to represent the air element.
you're stuck to the gangs leader equipment list I fear... you could use the drop rig / grapnel launcher to 'tarzan' around?
From Ruines o f Jardland NEW WARGEAR All Van Saar Primes, Augmeks and Teks add the following Wargear to their equipment list: • Ash waste grav-cutter...............................65 credits. So it could work with a Van Saar prime?
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