Bug Delaque Bio Scanners?

[paxmiles]

I think it's a typo...the delaque gang has access to bio-boosters where they should have access to bio-scanners.

No bio-boosters gang-wide.

The Master of Shadows, Phantom, Natch ghul, and ghost should all have bio-scanner access. Our bio-scanners should be 30 credits.

 

[Hobo86]

they're both in the trading post at r8 35/30 (basic prizes are the same for everybody)
they shouldn't be too difficult to obtain?

it fits 'a bit' in with their lore not?

 

[paxmiles]

they're both in the trading post at r8 35/30 (basic prizes are the same for everybody)
they shouldn't be too difficult to obtain?

it fits 'a bit' in with their lore not?

I know, and it's not a big deal.

Was just adding it "to the list" for whenever someone finds themselves with the time and ability to update this thing.

 

[Hobo86]

it's bugged in the gang builder?
(I fear that may not get fixed quickly...)

 

[paxmiles]

it's bugged in the gang builder?
(I fear that may not get fixed quickly...)

yeah.

But the points are right (it has the correct points for a bio-booster).

So I figure that whoever updated it last, saw we had bio-something and missed that it was scanner instead of booster. Seems like an easy mistake.

 

[LeperColony]

It is unlikely that there will be any further development, so you're going to need to use workarounds.

 

[paxmiles]

It is unlikely that there will be any further development, so you're going to need to use workarounds.

So how does it work? Isn't the little app builder thing part of this forum? I mean, if nobody can alter the app, how does the website stay up? Or are we basically waiting for the website to disappear..?

Website copyright info says both are owned by "malo" or "David Knife".

 

[Hobo86]

it's been asked before;
Malo, the original owner/developer of the site originally did everything on his own for quite a while (for the 1995 and 2018 necromunda versions).
this became a bit too much work (a lot of rules affecting other rules, ...) after GW kept releasing new books and as a result Malo doesn't actively contribute anymore. He has a right to his personal life.

Currently only the admins have access to the forum-part of the site and it's possible Malo also uses the server for personal use.
As far as I know Only Malo has/had access to the gang builder tool.

PS: A team/group is working on a new gang builder (Mundamanager) and Thammut (here on this forum) has his offline spreadsheets
And there is necroraw dot ru (not a gang builder)

 

[paxmiles]

it's been asked before;
Malo, the original owner/developer of the site originally did everything on his own for quite a while (for the 1995 and 2018 necromunda versions).
this became a bit too much work (a lot of rules affecting other rules, ...) after GW kept releasing new books and as a result Malo doesn't actively contribute anymore. He has a right to his personal life.

You say that like he's not the current owner. Website copyright is pretty clear, this site is owned and operated by David Knife/malo.

If that isn't the case, need to update the website to reflect who's actually owning and running things.

As for personal life, no problem there, but he should look into selling the website if he's wanting to be hands off. At least somebody here might be willing to pay him a bit of money for it, and then it's not his problem. But as long as the site is up and registered under his name, it'll always be his problem.

 

[Hobo86]

You say that like he's not the current owner. Website copyright is pretty clear, this site is owned and operated by David Knife/malo.

If that isn't the case, need to update the website to reflect who's actually owning and running things.

As for personal life, no problem there, but he should look into selling the website if he's wanting to be hands off. At least somebody here might be willing to pay him a bit of money for it, and then it's not his problem. But as long as the site is up and registered under his name, it'll always be his problem.

True, but as a non-commercial website, we're basically talking on/about somebody's hobby project,
one he +- abandoned 2 years ago and one that remains in er... creative limbo?

Perhaps he could sell it on someday, I assume the admins have his contacts..

 

[paxmiles]

True, but as a non-commercial website, we're basically talking on/about somebody's hobby project,
one he +- abandoned 2 years ago and one that remains in er... creative limbo?

Perhaps he could sell it on someday, I assume the admins have his contacts..

In what sense is it non-commercial? It has a subscription model. That's for-profit, isn't it? I feel like the line between profit and no profit is when you start asking for money in exchange for goods or services, right? It would probably depend on his country, but I assume it's reported income, for tax purposes.

I'm not suggesting anyone is really making money. I'm very aware that the prices listed are very low. But it's paid services, and there's even a list of what features you can expect for each "tier" of payment. If it were "donations" then you wouldn't receive anything for it. "Free with purchase" isn't free...
Example:

Subscriptions

Help support the community and site costs by becoming a subcriber!

yaktribe.games

And even if it were a registered non-profit business, you can still sell non-profits if they are fully owned by the person doing the selling.

Just seems like if it isn't about making money and he's done with it, the smart move would be to either sell it or dissolve it. I hope he doesn't dissolve it.

 

[paxmiles]

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[paxmiles]

BTW, we're on a tangent here. My bug reporting/question is resolved, as far as I'm concerned. It was mainly to post the bug, not any expectation of it getting resolved.

We don't need to continue on this side topic, but if you (or anyone else) keeps asking, I'll probably keep responding.

 

[Hobo86]

ok, just wanted to correct one of my messages from above here:

edit: I meant the moderators have his contacts, not the admins...

 

[Petitioner's City]

@paxmiles I understand you haven't been on site forever, but this is just the way it is and has been for a while - Malo has a right to make decisions based on whatever has happened to him, including just getting overwhelmed and needing a (even permanent) break. Equally his stable ownership keeps the site as it is, ensuring continuity. For whatever reason he won't let others edit the gang manager, and we have no real say on that, it is his work.

The community can create another tool, for sure - as mentioned above - but this isn't the GitHub for a new recruit or Rogers' quartermaster, it isn't a continually updated data source. It's a shame as a live resource, but it is Malo's choice - which is entirely fair and right - to not update, and it trundles on, a forum and a somewhat eccentric gang manager.

 

[paxmiles]

@paxmiles I understand you haven't been on site forever, but this is just the way it is and has been for a while - Malo has a right to make decisions based on whatever has happened to him, including just getting overwhelmed and needing a (even permanent) break. Equally his stable ownership keeps the site as it is, ensuring continuity. For whatever reason he won't let others edit the gang manager, and we have no real say on that, it is his work.

The community can create another tool, for sure - as mentioned above - but this isn't the GitHub for a new recruit or Rogers' quartermaster, it isn't a continually updated data source. It's a shame as a live resource, but it is Malo's choice - which is entirely fair and right - to not update, and it trundles on, a forum and a somewhat eccentric gang manager.

I mean, sure, I only created this account in 2019...which is not "forever" ago...

And of course, as copyright owner, malo can do whatever. But he's legally responsible for this website that he's hands off of, which seems kinda dangerous for him. If I were him, I'd sell the site to someone. Not me, mind you, I got no money, but I'm sure someone would pay for the site, and the more important thing is being no longer legally responsible for the website.

 

[Petitioner's City]

I mean, sure, I only created this account in 2019...which is not "forever" ago...

And of course, as copyright owner, malo can do whatever. But he's legally responsible for this website that he's hands off of, which seems kinda dangerous for him. If I were him, I'd sell the site to someone. Not me, mind you, I got no money, but I'm sure someone would pay for the site, and the more important thing is being no longer legally responsible for the website.

I must admit the pandemic period has skewed my sense of time for sure - sorry about that.

Community fundraising/buyout? I wonder if anyone has suggested it to him? But equally - not everyone approaches the world in that way - I do find that a different approach to how I view the problem, but interesting to be proposed.

I do think yaktribe is a really unique place, and I worry what change would mean - I'm not sure what a new generation of ownership would mean, but that's up to the site's creator and it's admins possibly?

 

[paxmiles]

I must admit the pandemic period has skewed my sense of time for sure - sorry about that.

I haven't been especially active on the forums in most of that time. But yaktribe's only been around for a little while. Long for a website, I suppose, but it's not even as old as facebook. That's not a criticism, most websites, unfortunately, don't last very long.

Community fundraising/buyout? I wonder if anyone has suggested it to him? But equally - not everyone approaches the world in that way - I do find that a different approach to how I view the problem, but interesting to be proposed.

I do think yaktribe is a really unique place, and I worry what change would mean - I'm not sure what a new generation of ownership would mean, but that's up to the site's creator and it's admins possibly?

I mean, I think the yaktribe builder is just a cease and desist waiting to happen. There's probably nothing technically illegal on there, but the way cease and desist works, they only need to claim such and as long as you don't contest it, then it does it's job, and if you do contest it, then there's legal costs, which is death for smallscale operations, like this.

I don't think GW would harm it while it remains practically the only gang builder out there. But if GW makes their own builder, perhaps as part of releasing a new edition of necromunda...they might do it then.

I was talking with the local warhammer store employee. He was pointing out that necromunda is the only remaining GW game where models are made AFTER rules are produced. I've always liked that format, but I can see why corporate would perfer the other route. So, makes me think a new edition is on the horizon (I've heard no rumors to this effect, this is just speculation).

Anyway, if I were malo, I'd write up some sort of sale where who ever buys the site assumes all legal responsibility for everything on the site past and present, take whatever people are willing to give me in cash, and wipe my hands clean. I mean, that is unless he wants to become active again. Leaving the site up, while not active and being fully responsible seems like a ticking timebomb.

 

[Hobo86]

Hi pax

I can follow your thinking in some points but you have a few legal assumptions (a few caveat from somebody who worked as a salesrep in other sectors):

-communities working to support less popular games offer a net benefit for games workshop, they benefit from the creative and marketing efforts made by 'communities' in their products
(and as a sidenote; quite a few 'customer ideas' get adopted at some point or another by GW (like true scale marines and GW 'adopting' more realistic scaling, pop culture 'side' adaptations or even some more obscure scenarios and concepts posted on this community (1995)
-on the other hand investing in official gangbuilders or what necroraw offers means making big investments that would require a return of investment. Would they achieve this with a stable but limited fanbase? or are these 'small shrimps' occurring in the margins of the big (money) picture.*

You have some valid points, but how much money do they lose from pirated content, copied products, close copies, etc... and where do they need to intervene to avoid getting completely er... surpassed by former employees, competitors or startups and losing business.

* they likely could do this, but they would have to rethink their 'books of' model and switch to a direct or hybrid subscription based model.

 

[paxmiles]

Hi pax

I can follow your thinking in some points but you have a few legal assumptions (a few caveat from somebody who worked as a salesrep in other sectors):

-communities working to support less popular games offer a net benefit for games workshop, they benefit from the creative and marketing efforts made by 'communities' in their products
(and as a sidenote; quite a few 'customer ideas' get adopted at some point or another by GW (like true scale marines and GW 'adopting' more realistic scaling, pop culture 'side' adaptations or even some more obscure scenarios and concepts posted on this community (1995)
-on the other hand investing in official gangbuilders or what necroraw offers means making big investments that would require a return of investment. Would they achieve this with a stable but limited fanbase? or are these 'small shrimps' occurring in the margins of the big (money) picture.*

You have some valid points, but how much money do they lose from pirated content, copied products, close copies, etc... and where do they need to intervene to avoid getting completely er... surpassed by former employees, competitors or startups and losing business.

* they likely could do this, but they would have to rethink their 'books of' model and switch to a direct or hybrid subscription based model.

Totally agree that it would be really stupid of a move by GW to attack yaktribe

...but GW making really stupid moves....wouldn't exactly be the first time.