Halfling Treemen models

AndeeT

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Hey Blood Bowl fans,

I've just seen the new Halfling models for BB;

New BB 'flings

They look ace, and are probably my favourite sculpts of the BB16 teams so far. I would love to grab a box when they arrive, but it reminded me I still have a team of the old Halfings waiting to be painted. I'm just missing a couple of treemen.

I know there's a new treeman for BB16 but I want to stick with the old school to match my models.

My question was; how much bigger are the old Warhammer Fantasy Treemen? Like this guy;
warhammer+wood+elf+treeman.jpg


The normal big guys already take up a massive space when prone and this guy looks like he might take up a whole wide zone to himself!
Does anyone have any experience using those models on the BB pitch?

As an alternative I was thinking of the old Warhammer Dryads;
dryad4_old.jpg


Or maybe stick with the big dood and get one of those prone markers?

Cheers

Andy

(new forum is wicked btw)
 

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I've played someone using those dryads. They don't look like ST6 players, but they were easily identifiable and much more practical. I guess it depends whether you want something like 'realism'/ 'immersion' or think of them as just game pieces.
 
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Cheers @Ben_S. Weirdly, I hadn’t even thought about how the dryads sized up to opposing teams. Just thought ‘well, they are twice the size of the halflings, so that should work’. But then I guess that’s every model, haha!

That’s made me think to go with the treemen and just use prone markers :)

Thanks @Howks , I wasn’t even aware of those models. They would certainly fit a wood elf team well! (I’m eyeing up the new pro elves for sure)
 
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Given that we have 2nd edition teams facing off against current GW teams in our league, I don't think anyone can get too bothered about scale between teams. The new Halflings are probably bigger than some old Dwarfs...
 

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@AndeeT - I use that very first model as one of my Fling Treemen. He works ok when he is up and about. But I tend to use a Fanath Monster Dice marker for all my Big Guys these days.... 1) they look cool, 2) they fit nicely in the squares on the pitch and still act as a very visible reminder that there is a player there. I find the token sets some people use in plave for 'Prone/ Stunned' are easy to overlook for yourself or opponents and leads to awkward moments when they are remembered.
 

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I don't actually have a 'fling team but, if I did, I'd use this guy:

It's a Gormiti toy that I repainted. Base is 40mm (for scale).
 

AndeeT

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Thanks all. @Ben_S thats very true about scale. Just saw a pic of 5th edition Pro elves vs BB16 elves and it’s like a halflings vs an elf, it’s not even close.

Cheers @DArquebus for the detailed info. I hadn’t even thought about the prone markers. I know I would certainly appreciate something a bit bigger to remember what models are where.

Just saw GW are doing the 4th edition Treeman as made to order for this week only;

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/MTO-Blood-Bowl-Treeman-2019

Though he looks a bit soulless. The old WHF ones looks much better I reckon.
They are also doing the pot and master chef. Might pick those up.

Cheers
Andy
 

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Yup, total change in scale:
Going by those photos, the difference is about a half a head in height. For a real life human, that means the difference of about five inches, between someone 5'7" and 6'0", or between someone 5'9" and someone 6'2" [since we're talking American Football players]. So... entirely within normal variability. The only really noticable difference in a mix will be (a) base size [but that can be altered to suit, up or down, to your own preference], and (b) dynamic posing. Generally, the old models are variations on the "starfish" pose that old models have to aid casting [some better disguised than others], and the new models are much more... dynamic in their posing.

But size difference? Nothing beyond the realm of real world normality. At least, for human, ork, etc. I have not seen a new halfling next to an old halfling yet, but based on what we HAVE seen, I would expect the difference to be about a half a halfling head - so three or four inches if transposed to real-life heights. This expectation might be proved horrendously wrong, with the new being literally head-and-shoulders above the old [yes, yes, I know, that too is real-world possible, but starts to look curious in a sports team in real life when it does happen, so maybe save that for star players? heh!]. But that difference isn't nearly so strange as we seem to expect.

Actually, outside of the Star Wars Empire prequels, it seems strange to have a team of identical, clone-like matching heights. So what if they're a little short to be a stormtrooper? Heh!
 

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Some scale-by-comparison photos are cropping up on the Mordheim Facebook group. They come to around old-dwarf-height, when measured up against an old-human-mercenary-now-Freeguild model. So... the size of old dwarf models.

They have not yet been added to this scale guide:
and my guess is, an update won't be forthcoming.

Here is one scaled against a Blood Bowl six-sider, though, which gives an excellent idea of size:
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Thanks for the pointer. That one wasn't easy to find, until I realised it might be hidden in the comments, which it was.

Compared to the classic models, they definitely look larger than a dwarf should be to me (though, of course, the actual size of dwarfs has also increased over time).
 
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