N18 Help identify loadouts on Delaque sprue

[dave40k]

I'm new to the game and have done a good job so far, but I have some things I am still not able to figure out:

1. Are mesh armor and armored undersuit represented on sprue, or is it just something you claim to have?
2. I cannot find grapnel launcher or what it looks like on the internet
3. Can I use the holstered pistol to represent any pistol? Maybe the holstered pistol is supposed to be the grapnel launcher?

I'm using the Goonhammer list so everything should be on the sprue:
Out-of-the-Box Delaque Gang
This gang assumes you’ve bought 1 Delaque box and want to get started playing. It’s not perfectly optimized, but it will get you well on your way to some good games.

1. Master of Shadows (Infiltrate): flechette pistol, web gauntlet, mesh armor, armored undersuit, grapnel launcher [230]
2. Phantom (Overwatch): master-crafted long rifle, mesh armor, armored undersuit [160]
3. Phantom (Faceless): shotgun w/ solid & scatter, autopistol, web gauntlet, mesh armor, armored undersuit [195]
4. Specialist Ghost: grav pistol, photon flash grenades, mesh armor [160]
5. Ghost: autogun, mesh armor [70]
6. Ghost: lasgun, mesh armor [70]
7. Ghost: 2 x autopistol, mesh armor [65]
8. Shadow: 2 x autopistol, mesh armor [50]

TOTAL: 1,000

 

[MysticWolf]

Its generally acceptable to use the holstered pistol for any pistol, maybe barring a hand flamer.

The armours dont really matter based on the model, they can have anything unless you reaaaallly want to model mesh on every dude.

I think the general concensus is that a grapnel launcher will fit under the delaque coat, but you can use the pistol holster to represent it if you want, they're your models. I've also seen cool grapnel launcher conversions, but I wouldn't bother personally.

 

[Oojamaflip13]

Yeah, what MysticWolf said. In fact, I've seen many a group say that pistols, grenades and fighting knives don't really need to be on the model, as these are things that could fit in it's pocketses. This goes for a lot of wargear, as long as it's small enough to fit roughly in the palm of your hand. And armour is usually accepted to be under the clothes of the model. Especially for Delaques; who knows what they're hiding under those coats...

Also, I don't know quite how new to tabletop gaming you are, so sorry if you know about this; there's an unwritten rule in modelling called "counts as", wherein something on the model (or even the whole model itself) is said to "count as" something else. For example, my Cawdor Leader model has a chainsword. But, as it is a particularly large and ornate chainsword made by the Sisters of Battle, it counts as a Master-crafted chainaxe due to the increased damage it can cause. The general consensus toward the "counts as" rule is that you make sure to inform your opponent before the game to avoid any confusion ("Hey, your Leader isn't in melee range of my Champ!" "Yes, he is. His sword counts as a greatsword, which has a melee range of 1 inch!") and also that you're not pushing it a bit too far and counting one thing as something COMPLETELY different (unless discussed and agreed upon with your opponent beforehand). This avoids situations even more confusing than the previous one, such as moving a model in the belief that it will be safe from being shot by a far off enemy model armed with a knife, only for the opponent to inform you that the knife "counts as" a Plasma Gun.

Of course, sometimes, you can have a lot of fun with this...one player in my group has a gang member modelled as riding a Squig. They count as being equipped with a grapnel-launcher and drop rig as a Squig's bouncy movement could easily be another way to represent the quick vertical movement that these pieces of gear allow you.

 

[Scabs]

You should be aware there is a Games Workshop Secret Police that will come to you house/club/store/rec center and confiscate ANY minis that are not exactly modeled as represented. What? There isn't? Oh, OK, nevermind.

Generally, I don't bother modeling pistols or knives unless it strikes my fancy. I do like to model powerful pistols like Hand Flamers and Plasma pistols and Web Pistols. Not for you. For me. For me to remember the model has'em. Ain't nobody gonna question whether a model has a grapnel hook or not. But, that's not to discourage anyone from taking it to the next level. Your inclinations are good.

 

[joshinrva]

Its generally acceptable to use the holstered pistol for any pistol, maybe barring a hand flamer.

The armours dont really matter based on the model, they can have anything unless you reaaaallly want to model mesh on every dude.

I think the general concensus is that a grapnel launcher will fit under the delaque coat, but you can use the pistol holster to represent it if you want, they're your models. I've also seen cool grapnel launcher conversions, but I wouldn't bother personally.

I'm in exactly the same boat. It looks like everything is on the sprue except for the lasrifile, which can be stolen from the Escher sprue.

 

[mateyboy3000]

I'm in exactly the same boat. It looks like everything is on the sprue except for the lasrifile, which can be stolen from the Escher sprue.

You don't need to steal any, they announced the delaque weapons yesterday which has lasguns in

 

[joshinrva]

I mean, I can't identify a lasrifle on the Delaque sprues that come with Hive War. I haven't thought about the weapon upgrades yet. I'm just starting out, and honestly, more excited about Cawdor. I see all of these on the sprue:

https://imgur.com/a/EA7Qng1

 

[mateyboy3000]

These were announced yesterday for pre order on Saturday, they will run you £15 and of all the gangs this one is the only one I would consider essential to run the gang due to the 2 handed poses and access to more than 4 basic weapons. I think it was (2 shotguns and 2 autoguns) that's before you consider having poses that hold a rifle in 2 hands for conversions