Just wondering if the rulebook in Hive War contains any new scenarios/campaigns similar to the Dark Uprising rulebook? Also are there any new gang tactics cards in the boxed set too?
N18 Hive War
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N18 - Collected Errors/Typos in the N21 Rulebook (Hive War)
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Short answer, no. Hive War is a starter box. It is designed to teach the game. No campaign. No new setting. The six scenarios are very small, 5 to a side, using the small playmat and 12 pieces of terrain (columns and walls). There are some optional rules that can link the scenarios. We played three scenarios. They are tiny, and are supposed to teach basics. And no more. The gang lists are truncated. HW is nothing like Dark Uprising.
My reservation is...unlike the original boxed set with cardboard tiles and regular scenarios, new players will quickly outgrow HW before they play all six of its included scenarios. But, it does include a rule book, gangs, and necessary doodads. I think the tactics cards are not new. However, the rule book does not have all the rules used in the game. Only covers what’s in the box.
My reservation is...unlike the original boxed set with cardboard tiles and regular scenarios, new players will quickly outgrow HW before they play all six of its included scenarios. But, it does include a rule book, gangs, and necessary doodads. I think the tactics cards are not new. However, the rule book does not have all the rules used in the game. Only covers what’s in the box.
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The tactics are detailed in the diff and really challenge the definition of "new":
Is an old gang-specific tactic re-released as universal "new"? Are the same tactic but with updated texts "new"? Maybe not.
Most rulebooks (particularly those bundled in a box) are like Scabs say mostly limited to the content of the box. This is what I called "boxed rulebook". However, in true spirit of new Necromunda, all rulebooks are different and have unique content not found in any previous book or rulebook. This is also true for N21 rulebook (Hive War).
Is an old gang-specific tactic re-released as universal "new"? Are the same tactic but with updated texts "new"? Maybe not.
Most rulebooks (particularly those bundled in a box) are like Scabs say mostly limited to the content of the box. This is what I called "boxed rulebook". However, in true spirit of new Necromunda, all rulebooks are different and have unique content not found in any previous book or rulebook. This is also true for N21 rulebook (Hive War).
Who you calling "Scabs!!!?" Oh, right.
Yes, each addition to the game has its merits. No, they don't form a coherent path to Necro gaming glory. They repeat rules. They update rules. They omit rules. They don't build on each other. To proceed from HW to full campaigning, you still need two rulebooks, or three, or only one, or two more, or another one from another boxset. It's certainly worth the journey, but not for the faint of heart.
In comparison, my longtime Necro group just took up Blood Bowl for a diversion. A Fall dalliance, if you will. Guess what? One thoughtful BB boxset does it all. One rulebook to rule them all. Unlike Necro, four of us bought the new box, and now have each have a BRB and game board and teams. Ready in case a Blood Bowl game breaks out (hope springs eternal). Now, I'm talking two guys who NEVER buy anything. And, yes, just like Necro, the one of us who refuses to buy any rulebooks because online rules are free and "easy to use," still invariably ends up with one (or more) of our hardbacks in his possession for most of the game. Grrr! Oh well, at least he's cute and cuddly. There is one expansion for those so inclined. A reasonable amount of expansion accessories. It's an imperfect comparison, but an illuminating one. The BB boxset is a one-and-done, one. HW is the first step out the door on the journey.
Yes, each addition to the game has its merits. No, they don't form a coherent path to Necro gaming glory. They repeat rules. They update rules. They omit rules. They don't build on each other. To proceed from HW to full campaigning, you still need two rulebooks, or three, or only one, or two more, or another one from another boxset. It's certainly worth the journey, but not for the faint of heart.
In comparison, my longtime Necro group just took up Blood Bowl for a diversion. A Fall dalliance, if you will. Guess what? One thoughtful BB boxset does it all. One rulebook to rule them all. Unlike Necro, four of us bought the new box, and now have each have a BRB and game board and teams. Ready in case a Blood Bowl game breaks out (hope springs eternal). Now, I'm talking two guys who NEVER buy anything. And, yes, just like Necro, the one of us who refuses to buy any rulebooks because online rules are free and "easy to use," still invariably ends up with one (or more) of our hardbacks in his possession for most of the game. Grrr! Oh well, at least he's cute and cuddly. There is one expansion for those so inclined. A reasonable amount of expansion accessories. It's an imperfect comparison, but an illuminating one. The BB boxset is a one-and-done, one. HW is the first step out the door on the journey.
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I think the BB community would go apoplectic if they had to buy two books to start and one for each extra team played.
The latest BB rulebook is a "full" rulebook (for the full game). You would not be so lucky with the 2016 edition BB rulebook which is cropped and limited to the boxed content only (boxes rulebook)!
I did not but I'm having a read now, thanks.Did you check this out? Full diff.
N18 - Collected Errors/Typos in the N21 Rulebook (Hive War)
The 4th rulebook (N21), declared to include all erratas and updates. Let's have a closer look and see what that means. Previous discussions: House of Artifice (Van Saar) Errors General Discussion House of Iron (Orlock) Errors General Discussion House of Blades (Escher) Errors General...
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