How tall?

[lordneg]

I am not sure which forum to post this sorry. Ok I guess according to lore the hive is only about 10miles high, which I may have missed. But in my head cannon hives are hundreds of miles high like massive mountains towering above the ash wastes. I guess I got caught up in my own lore and didn’t realize they are so small. But I for one prefer my hives to be massive with miles high swaths of just caverns of just built up over centuries of buildings. Your sky could be miles high and you couldn’t see it , but you can climb up the mound of old buildings and towers and heat sinks to reach it. Anyone else ever think about this stuff?

 

[Mr. M]

Mount Everest is only a little more than 6 miles high, so 10 miles is decently tall. However tall Hive Primus actually is in miles, as long as it's top reaches beyond the atmosphere, it's base sprawls out over an immense surface area, and it's underhive is a labyrinth of collapsed and decaying domes leading to the toxic sump - then all is right with this fantastic setting! One thing that always intrigued me was how parts of the hives are overcrowded industrial hellholes, while other areas have been abandoned for centuries. One would think the population pressures would force more people into the "recycled frontiers"!

 

[Ben_S]

Anyone else ever think about this stuff?

There is some related discussion in this thread:

Pictures of hive cities: help needed!

Hi guys, Been delving a bit through the forum here, really loved the discussion on the volumes. Thing is that I've been getting 'visions' of me trying to build a model of a hive city and I'm in need of some inspiration. My question to you guys is: what would you imagine such a city to look...

yaktribe.games

 

[Punktaku]

I remember taking part in a discussion about what was between all the domes. But I’m not sure if that was a thread of its own or if it was in the middle of someone’s hobby threads…

 

[Stoof]

I remember that too. I think it was in one of the book threads - one of the books described the ash wastes as being between domes?

@Mr. M , what's the source of the spire of Primus leaving the atmosphere? N17+ fluff? It had always been tall enough to be above the toxic cloud layer, but I don't recall it being mentioned as tall enough to leave the planet's atmosphere. I could be wrong, but it would totally rewrite the height of a hive in my mind!

 

[lordneg]

Found these. very interesting stuff.

 

[Mr. M]

@Stoof - I had to go check my old ORB Sourcebook, but it's on page 7 in the description of the Spire of Hive Primus: "The Spire extends upwards from the cloud top level, rising above the mass of the hive and piercing the planet's atmosphere."

 

[Punktaku]

@Stoof one book had a dome that was all ash waste, but I can’t remember which one. Maybe the one about Mad Donna?

The thread I was thinking of, we were discussing what kind of infrastructure exists between domes. Pipes, vents, exhausts, empty voids. That sort of thing. It gave me the idea of making a city suspended on massive pipes/wires in the void between two domes.

 

[Mr. M]

This is another great thread on a similar topic:

Hive Primus volumes

Was thinking about how small (in area) the Underhive is. Scaling from the illustration in the original rulebook, the Underhive varies from 6 miles (at the top) to 8 miles (at the bottom) in diameter. This is marginally larger than the city of San Francisco (7 miles square) and seems really small...

yaktribe.games

 

[Stoof]

@Stoof - I had to go check my old ORB Sourcebook, but it's on page 7 in the description of the Spire of Hive Primus: "The Spire extends upwards from the cloud top level, rising above the mass of the hive and piercing the planet's atmosphere."

Interesting, I think I'd just read that "piercing" as sticking up into it rather than through it into space. Which fits the established about-ten-miles-tall, nowhere near enough to get out of an assumed earth equivalent atmosphere of around 60miles. But of course we don't know how thick Necromunda's atmosphere was to begin with - or how depleted it has been via various industrial horrors.

@Punktaku I certainly remember that thread, but I can't seem to find it.

 

[rustedchrome]

Arrow on left indicates it is 10 miles high...

 

[Punktaku]

I think it may have been this one under “Hive Lore”?
Thread 'A few questions that I need to know...'
https://yaktribe.games/community/threads/a-few-questions-that-i-need-to-know.5876/

 

[MusingWarboss]

One thing that always intrigued me was how parts of the hives are overcrowded industrial hellholes, while other areas have been abandoned for centuries. One would think the population pressures would force more people into the "recycled frontiers"!

Just bringing the real world into it (ewwww) were often being told there is a housing crisis and prices rise to ridiculous levels, yet... there are numerous abandoned properties all over the place.
Some cities have whole estates of boarded up terrace houses, that’s ignoring other abandoned areas like power stations, farms and airports.

So it wouldn’t surprise me that the Hive cities are also like that, it may even be a satirical poke at the real world there too.