I have to say... it was a bad replacement for Fantasy, but I'm glad we had anything to replace it... so now we can still buy SOME of the old models and rebase. I'm doing exactly that with TOW hahaha
Mordheim Coming Back...
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That might’ve been true for the original 1999 edition - it arrived at one of those odd transitional periods in GWs history where they were slowly moving away from the “Specialist Games” in stores and would soon almost limit themselves to [the then] the big three, Warhammer Fantasy Battle, Warhammer 40,000 and Lord of the Rings.
So really by 2001 its time in stores was up - like everything else in the Specialist lines it became a mail-order thing and eventually limped along with a living rulebook on the ancient GW website occasionally updated before all that was culled.
It never really had the chance to become as beloved as Necromunda (available from 1995, expansion 1996 and a second edition in 2001 with new models via mail-order).
It did have a big fan base though and is highly regarded as possibly the best skirmish game GW ever did.
So much so that modern Necromunda is said to have been highly influenced by its approach to Warbands.
So… would a new one be profitable? Absolutely! Look how they’ve milked the fan base for Necromunda since 2017! Expect that but called Mordheim.
You want to carry six hardback books around to play a game? You want a solid years release of resin side-characters while most of the actual warbands are absent?
You want a weird new edition appear where you can’t use your regular terrain but your warbands can sail the seas before they quietly rest the concept without actually finishing it?
You want six-hundred cards to collect?
You want limited edition dice sets? Hundreds of them?
Oh they’ll make their money. By FOMO-ing unnecessary extras alongside rules updates which require you to restructure all your previous purchases every so often.
You don’t want that.
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i do think pc games have taken the role mordheim used to have (entry level game)
and warhammer has been changed quite a bit so a new mordheim would be quite dissimilar to old mordheim (lore / worldview / approach to the hobby / ...)
the current ruleset includes a lot of homebrew / approved homebrew / official rules / ...
and an effort to 'smoothen' the diverging rulesets would likely help a lot.
somewhat organised players could do that on their own?
mel (boredheim) was thinking about including some more guidance for new players on the mordheim discord
i do think pc games have taken the role mordheim used to have (entry level game)
and warhammer has been changed quite a bit so a new mordheim would be quite dissimilar to old mordheim (lore / worldview / approach to the hobby / ...)
the current ruleset includes a lot of homebrew / approved homebrew / official rules / ...
and an effort to 'smoothen' the diverging rulesets would likely help a lot.
somewhat organised players could do that on their own?
mel (boredheim) was thinking about including some more guidance for new players on the mordheim discord
I do not know what I would like from it. I just remember enjoying the game and would love to play again. I think that a rerelease would possibly bring in new players from my area. There are a lot of Kill Team players and when we talk they all seem interested in a campaign style game. I love the old specialist games like Mordheim and GorkaMorka.
Nah, just like the rest of the re-editions: grab the new models and use the old rules. In Bloodbowl we still using the LRB-6, which is mathematically balanced, but it is cheaper to get new models from BB2025 teams than paying abusive prices on eBay. Same with Necromunda.
This is all very well in theory, but only if you have a like-minded play group. It's not much use if everyone around you migrates to the new rules (which is generally what seems to happen where I am).
It's certainly easier to find a game of Blood Bowl now than in 2014, but probably harder to find a game of CRP-rules Blood Bowl than it was.
Maybe getting a game of the new rules is better than not getting a game of the old rules. But just remember that it won't be the same game you loved before.
That is true. But I think they did a great job with the refresh of Necromunda. Thinking they could do the same thing for Mordheim.
I understand that. I do not like the GW Business model as it seems they are just printing books to sell them and should combine some of them to help save customers money. The same with the tactics cards. But nevertheless it is getting new people in the game with the gorgeous models.
Just to throw a rock in the water, I suggest folks go check out this channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SamPearsonGameDesign
The guy basically wrote warcry 1st edition, is a massive N95 (and mordheim) fan, for IMO the good reasons (among others, that the campaign system *works*, compared to newmunda...). And he is currently working on a new mordheim - outside of GW though!
The guy basically wrote warcry 1st edition, is a massive N95 (and mordheim) fan, for IMO the good reasons (among others, that the campaign system *works*, compared to newmunda...). And he is currently working on a new mordheim - outside of GW though!
