NCE Necromunda Community Edition
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I use Acrobat Pro. Not the ideal software but it’s what I’ve got. Ideally you’d use Adobe Indesign or similar.
The changelog is updated. Yes, the ones I accidentally labelled as 2020 are 2021 updates. I skipped a year.
Enforcers is one of those things that NCE didn't really nail down, what with them being a Fanatic expansion rather than an "official" ruleset. I think the Tools will be using the ORB version if anything - though I admit I haven't ever used them to build an enforcer gang.
@Malo will be able to confirm, if he can remember!
@Malo will be able to confirm, if he can remember!
I see, I was thrown off by their presence in the tools and got confused while cross-referencing different versions of the rules with the NCE tag. I'll check the ORB ones out now, and failing that I'll just do it all on paper. Thank you!
Kneejerk reaction is no, because I only just converted my lasgun ratties to something else in the recent past. 
But honestly I don't think it's a problem for them to have them. They used to and weren't broken, because of that at least. I know the balance between auto and las shifted a bit, but more towards auto anyway, and they are never going to out shoot the shooty gangs with just basic weapons.
But honestly I don't think it's a problem for them to have them. They used to and weren't broken, because of that at least. I know the balance between auto and las shifted a bit, but more towards auto anyway, and they are never going to out shoot the shooty gangs with just basic weapons.
Yay for lasguns! They were quite common on the first wave of models, and as a more expensive basic weapon, not exactly either overpowered or domineering.
Part of me says yes because the old models have them.
Another part says no because ratskins don't have much contact with uphivers (Apart from badskins of course). Also they live in the lowest badlands parts of the underhive. Where guns are knock offs made in shoddy workshops out of cheap sheet steel etc. Every casing has been recycled so many times with whatever home recipe of powder. As opposed to coming out of the manufactories above.
They use bows, muskets, blunderbusses after all.
Maybe have them as a leader only weapon. So they are limited at gang creation but become common after that.
Works as a halfway house between the two.
Another part says no because ratskins don't have much contact with uphivers (Apart from badskins of course). Also they live in the lowest badlands parts of the underhive. Where guns are knock offs made in shoddy workshops out of cheap sheet steel etc. Every casing has been recycled so many times with whatever home recipe of powder. As opposed to coming out of the manufactories above.
They use bows, muskets, blunderbusses after all.
Maybe have them as a leader only weapon. So they are limited at gang creation but become common after that.
Works as a halfway house between the two.
I think this is a great compromise and probably the best way to go.
EDIT: Actually I forgot that leader only weapons no longer become common after first game. They actually get removed from the HWL after the first game... which maybe another thing that needs work.
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It's one of those anachronisms that crops up in the Necromunda - and wider 40k - lore. Lasguns are second only to hydrogen and hands to hold them in the 40k universe. They have been around for millennea, they are supremely reliable, easy to reload/recharge, and available in their countless billions across all walks of society... yet Orlocks prefer "reliable" autoguns and boltguns, and the people with limited access to kit inexplicably find it easier to scratch build kinetic weapons and blend gunpowder than plug a lasgun power pack pack into a pilfered power source. We, today, think "they shouldn't have high-tech stuff", forgetting that in 40K a lasgun isn't in any way "high-tech".
Personally I think they should just have regular access to them, but I don't play ratskins. My argument - beyond the tongue-in-cheek one above - would simply be that the original metals had them as standard ganger models - and three seperate sculpts of them at that - rather than the unusal one-offs like the Orlock power fist or Delaque axe wielding maniac.
Personally I think they should just have regular access to them, but I don't play ratskins. My argument - beyond the tongue-in-cheek one above - would simply be that the original metals had them as standard ganger models - and three seperate sculpts of them at that - rather than the unusal one-offs like the Orlock power fist or Delaque axe wielding maniac.
Actually I forgot that leader only weapons no longer become common after first game. They actually get removed from the HWL after the first game... which maybe another thing that needs work.
Edited post above for clarity.
Edited post above for clarity.
Yeah, I'd agree with Stoof on this - someone who comes to NCE these days, and then buys some ratskins on ebay, for example, is far more likely to find 1st edition than fanatic's 2nd edition, and thus have at least a few, or even a lot, of lasguns.
(this of course reflects a problem I have with modernmunda, and even the 1st Underhive, was the house lists making illegal people's treasured older models! It's the first thing I houserule is putting those weapons back into the lists
)Just for heck, too, even the original Renegade box had a lasgun!
And this lovely art features a laspistol too
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