I have to ask. What exactly is the box room at your esteemed abode?
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It's the name often given to the small extra room you get in a lot of UK homes that inevitably gets used for storing boxes, its also usually somewhat box shaped.
I kind of thought it would be something like that. Ours mostly contains seldom used equipment, like the juicer, the waffle iron, things like that.
Fair enough. 3D terrain is lovely and is a hobby in and of itself, as it used to be when people crafted it from mostly various forms of card, foam and other bits.
Preprinted card terrain does have its place though and MDF whether preprinted or DIY is often quite practical.
After all those 3D skulls and pipes sculpted on GW plastic terrain look nice but offer no discardable anything over a flatter surface in game terms. Especially if that flatter surface also includes those elements on it too.
Yes, look at all this flat and uninspiring terrain and game surface:
I bet that never inspired a whole generation of people to get into wargaming more so than any other game ever did or has, including Warhammer and its derivatives.
(Yes it also included plastic bits - as did Necromunda 1995 - both iconic and both massively inspiring to this day)
I’d argue that this is less inspiring though, certainly out of the box:
You have seen GWs skull fetish right?
Plus the stuff in this box set looks no sillier than if they’d just given you the bare plastic to paint up yourself.
In fact an equivalent amount of plastic, including Realm of Battle board/Underhive tiles would set you back a few hundred £$. Plus you’d have to paint it, then store it and it wouldn’t play any different in the game.
There’s room for it all in the hobby. Some people just want to play with and work on the miniatures, not tag on a model railway build for the minis to stand on. Others prefer sculpting hugely detailed immersive 3D environments and then run bare plastic stuff or “dipped” minis across it.
Some just want to play a game, others just want to create mini sculptures.
As one who prefers the terrain building part of the hobby, I tend to agree with you. It seems to be the rare few who can make MDF terrain look really good. However, I completely understand using card terrain an neoprene mats for the convenience, speed, and storage.
I really thought there would be more comments about the trikes. Oh well, I'll say it. They ve inspired me to get a squat gang.
I love MDF terrain. Plastic terrain is usually way too expensive and way too over-detailed for what is needed. MDF with some paint and a couple of added details are a perfect balance of cost and quality for me.
And a side note both sarrisa precision and war bases are doing pre-printed MDF seen at Partizan wargames show last weekend.
sarissa-precision.com
warbases.co.uk
And TT combat has a Kickstarter soon for their chroma range
Tollingchester - A City in Full Colour
Build and play, no paint required! These sets come printed in luxurious Sarissa Precision CMYK full colour. Discover more about the range HERE
sarissa-precision.com
Pill Boxes
warbases.co.uk
And TT combat has a Kickstarter soon for their chroma range
Oh man - I LOVE the trikes! Squats are quickly becoming my new favourite - totally unexpected too! I've never been bothered by dwarves or the stunted 40k viking Voltan things...
These guys are really scratching my 'utilitarian/contemporary/industrial militia but still a reference to old school 90's mini' vibe.
New Kill team - I am interested in the game to an extent, especially now it is simpler, but I dont think I will be purchasing it due to other commitments. I do have the Plague guard heroes in their OG boxes, unfortunately minus the wizard dude.
My thoughts on the MDF terrain: as long as it is cheaper for the consumer then brilliant! I have purchased MDF terrain in the past that needed building and painting etc and it is a pain to work with, but can look amazing. Storage totally agree - something to store/transport is great.
Personally I feel I am an 'environmental' gaming snob - painted minis and immersive world terrain etc. interest me more than the actual gameplay and tactics/rules etc. Therefore the MDF subjectively isn't as sexy as well painted plastic, but it does a lot more than my Pringles can and cardboard 2nd edition efforts! A perfect (hopefully affordable) option for the community.
I would recommend the (Newer) infinity cardboard printed buildings - they are good quality and add verticality, stairs and bridges if you are looking for a more sci fi aesthetic than gothic. Just hard to find in stock! I'm pretty sure they have some in the new 2x player box sets.
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www.goblingaming.co.uk
These guys are really scratching my 'utilitarian/contemporary/industrial militia but still a reference to old school 90's mini' vibe.
New Kill team - I am interested in the game to an extent, especially now it is simpler, but I dont think I will be purchasing it due to other commitments. I do have the Plague guard heroes in their OG boxes, unfortunately minus the wizard dude.
My thoughts on the MDF terrain: as long as it is cheaper for the consumer then brilliant! I have purchased MDF terrain in the past that needed building and painting etc and it is a pain to work with, but can look amazing. Storage totally agree - something to store/transport is great.
Personally I feel I am an 'environmental' gaming snob - painted minis and immersive world terrain etc. interest me more than the actual gameplay and tactics/rules etc. Therefore the MDF subjectively isn't as sexy as well painted plastic, but it does a lot more than my Pringles can and cardboard 2nd edition efforts! A perfect (hopefully affordable) option for the community.
I would recommend the (Newer) infinity cardboard printed buildings - they are good quality and add verticality, stairs and bridges if you are looking for a more sci fi aesthetic than gothic. Just hard to find in stock! I'm pretty sure they have some in the new 2x player box sets.
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I just hope all the MDF companies don't move to pre-printed. I like to be able to detail and paint mine myself and the pre-printed ones are flatter than the bare MDF ones with no etched details.
Meh. Just don‘t tell GW about Foamex board
Look at all that potential Hubba Hubba
I second the infinity terrain, I'm a big fan of it especially for how little work it is.Oh man - I LOVE the trikes! Squats are quickly becoming my new favourite - totally unexpected too! I've never been bothered by dwarves or the stunted 40k viking Voltan things...
These guys are really scratching my 'utilitarian/contemporary/industrial militia but still a reference to old school 90's mini' vibe.
New Kill team - I am interested in the game to an extent, especially now it is simpler, but I dont think I will be purchasing it due to other commitments. I do have the Plague guard heroes in their OG boxes, unfortunately minus the wizard dude.
My thoughts on the MDF terrain: as long as it is cheaper for the consumer then brilliant! I have purchased MDF terrain in the past that needed building and painting etc and it is a pain to work with, but can look amazing. Storage totally agree - something to store/transport is great.
Personally I feel I am an 'environmental' gaming snob - painted minis and immersive world terrain etc. interest me more than the actual gameplay and tactics/rules etc. Therefore the MDF subjectively isn't as sexy as well painted plastic, but it does a lot more than my Pringles can and cardboard 2nd edition efforts! A perfect (hopefully affordable) option for the community.
I would recommend the (Newer) infinity cardboard printed buildings - they are good quality and add verticality, stairs and bridges if you are looking for a more sci fi aesthetic than gothic. Just hard to find in stock! I'm pretty sure they have some in the new 2x player box sets.
Darpan Xeno-Station Scenery Pack - Infinity
Buy Infinity The Game Scenery Now, Get 20% Off RRP - Same Day Dispatch In Stock Orders - Free UK Delivery Over £75 - Royal Mail Service Available At Checkout 1 Darpan Xeno-Station Scenery Pack contains: 4x Buildings 4x Holoads 2x Public Consoles 9x Blast Barriers Ready to play, double sided...
Darpan Xeno-Station Scenery Expansion Pack - Infinity
Buy Infinity The Game Scenery Now, Get 20% Off RRP - Same Day Dispatch In Stock Orders - Free UK Delivery Over £75 - Royal Mail Service Available At Checkout 1 Darpan Xeno-Station Scenery Expansion Pack contains: 1x Objective Room 2x Small Buildings 1x Sniper Tower 1x Console 2x Bridges 2x...
I’m definitely a terrain snob - and gaming with minis on/among flat terrain (including board games) hurts as much as using unpainted minis.
I also really enjoy building/painting terrain, both using Pringles cans, GW stuff, resin casts and 3D printed parts, such as my new favourites:
… and there can never be enough skulls on/in terrain
For Necromunda, I love plastic/homemade terrain. It is so atmospheric and enjoyable to play on a full board that is made to look like a hive zone or ash wastes outcamp.
For 40k, especially for tournament play, mdf and neoprene is king. It is easier to get consistent, standardized sized terrain so that there is no doubt the footprint of the terrain for all tables. It is also cheaper, which is a major point in its favor when you are looking at supplying terrain for 8-30 tables. Does it look the best- no, but it isn't supposed to. It is there to make everything easy, from setup to gameplay to teardown/storage.
For 40k, especially for tournament play, mdf and neoprene is king. It is easier to get consistent, standardized sized terrain so that there is no doubt the footprint of the terrain for all tables. It is also cheaper, which is a major point in its favor when you are looking at supplying terrain for 8-30 tables. Does it look the best- no, but it isn't supposed to. It is there to make everything easy, from setup to gameplay to teardown/storage.
I tend to somewhat agree. But this is a starter set, and I expect that quite a few first time players will at best play on an empty table with unpainted, barely assembled minis and whatever terrain they can scramble (like stacked books and the like) so in that case, in my opinion some printed MDF only adds, not detracts.
In the long run, yeah i prefer proper terrain, but for those first timers it is a nice addition that doesn't need much assembly or painting to get starter quick with gaming.
MDF terrain is ok and makes a good base point for terrain, but it does need quite a bit of work to make it look really good, especially as there are some things such as fences, ladders and railings that MDF does poorly (they are just too thick due to the material, so look weird as a result), but as a foundation to build upon it's hard to beat the combination of price and convenience.
I do think it is interesting that GW is moving in this direction, or at least testing the waters with Kill-Team to do so. As a 40k player and small-time TO, I would like to see GW supporting the standardization of terrain for tournament purposes, as well as possibly lowering the price point for intro sets into 40k/other games. The price for getting into 40k at a tournament level (2k points), can be a rough bar to some, and I've heard quite a few people grumble about getting intro sets that have terrain that is either useless for competitive play or seems to make the box set overpriced when they really mainly want the models/rules.
I personally don't like making/painting terrain, but I'm lucky enough to have a local Necromunda group that has several terrain-heads who make great boards/tiles and really get into that aspect of the hobby. The only terrain I still own is some small ruins that came from the 3rd ed starter box, but because I've run four small tournaments in the last year I'm starting to look for low-cost options to increase the terrain available for the tables- mdf might be the way to do it.
I personally don't like making/painting terrain, but I'm lucky enough to have a local Necromunda group that has several terrain-heads who make great boards/tiles and really get into that aspect of the hobby. The only terrain I still own is some small ruins that came from the 3rd ed starter box, but because I've run four small tournaments in the last year I'm starting to look for low-cost options to increase the terrain available for the tables- mdf might be the way to do it.
I like building and painting terrain, and as evident from my recent output, I do like both MDF and plastic. I like to mix them, as both have their pros and cons. But I sayy it is very time-consuming and I do agree with those who say that terrain is "the third army", mostly due to how long it takes and that it costs quite a bit to make it look good.
Having said all that, I do admit I don't like that particular set, but I can see the value in it for people who really just want to click the stuff together and get dice rolling as quickly as possible. The question that remains for me is how GWs MDF will stack up to competitors like TTcombat price-wise. Because with their MDF, I daresay you can cover an average 3x3 foot table densely for under 200£.
Having said all that, I do admit I don't like that particular set, but I can see the value in it for people who really just want to click the stuff together and get dice rolling as quickly as possible. The question that remains for me is how GWs MDF will stack up to competitors like TTcombat price-wise. Because with their MDF, I daresay you can cover an average 3x3 foot table densely for under 200£.
Ok, Necromunda Squats are the first 'extra gang' to get the full 'House of...' Treatment:
https://www.warhammer-community.com...pectors-throw-open-the-halls-of-the-ancients/
Interestingly in the article they mention 2 'new fighters' for the Squat roster (separate from the 3 Techmite exotic beast variants and the Trike), which to me suggests the Exo-kyns come in 2 separate 'datasheets/fighter entries': Ganger and Champion variants, which (if true) would make them similar to Subjugator enforcers, but I guess we'll get some more teasers about it in future article.
Out of the weapon upgrade sprue, I like hoe the Meltagun and Flamer look, but I find the idea of a Shoulder mounted Heavy flamer somewhat questionable; that said, it will probablymake for a good 'conversion base' to turn into shoulder-mounter Plasma cannons/Missile launchers/Heavy bolters
https://www.warhammer-community.com...pectors-throw-open-the-halls-of-the-ancients/
Interestingly in the article they mention 2 'new fighters' for the Squat roster (separate from the 3 Techmite exotic beast variants and the Trike), which to me suggests the Exo-kyns come in 2 separate 'datasheets/fighter entries': Ganger and Champion variants, which (if true) would make them similar to Subjugator enforcers, but I guess we'll get some more teasers about it in future article.
Out of the weapon upgrade sprue, I like hoe the Meltagun and Flamer look, but I find the idea of a Shoulder mounted Heavy flamer somewhat questionable; that said, it will probablymake for a good 'conversion base' to turn into shoulder-mounter Plasma cannons/Missile launchers/Heavy bolters
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