N18 Outcast gang build - thoughts appreciated

Tk421wayayp

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Hi all, at some point in our current campaign I may spin off an outcast gang from my van Saar, mainly because I like the narrative freedom! Opinions seem mixed on how viable Outcast gangs can be.....I see a fighting chance in number of bodies that can be fielded, ability to divert creds to tool up leader and champs and ability to give gangers anything from the pistols, basic and close combat section of the TP. Scum stat line seems perfectly good for just 30 creds per body.

Thinking is van Saar aligned.

Leader - mesh, armoured undersuit, plasma gun, energy shield
Champ 1 - mesh, armoured undersuit, energy shield, 2*boning sword, las pistol
Champ 2 - mesh, armoured undersuit, ablative overlay, long rifle, infra sight, las projector
Scum - shotgun
Scum - las gun
Scum - las gun
Scum - autogun
Scum - reclaimed autopistol
Scum - reclaimed autopistol, flail

Gut feel is that this gang could play pretty well against most house gangs........
 
Your Champs are tough, but only one of them is respectably armed. I'm assuming that the armored underwear is part of your VS theme, but the shields and the overlay are killing you. I'd scrape 70 or so points of that and get someone a better gun, or maybe a couple of someones.
 
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Your Champs are tough, but only one of them is respectably armed. I'm assuming that the armored underwear is part of your VS theme, but the shields and the overlay are killing you. I'd scrape 70 or so points of that and get someone a better gun, or maybe a couple of someones.
At least the mesh and underlay is to boost leader and champ survivability, given the penalities for outcast leader death and that you can only have 1 champ per 3 scum i.e. need to take care of the leader and champs! Agree shields can wait! Long rifle champ is more thematic that a solid loadout choice. Wondering weather venators build may be smarter than outcast, due to more choice over stat lines and more traditional leader/champs vs. gangers composition rules.......
 
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Come up with something, post it in this thread and we'll do a compare/contrast. The Outcast list isn't unsaveable and a lot depends on the meta you'll be playing in, but alternatives can be fun to explore.
 
If you reset your equipment, your Outcast Leader and Champs could all have Plasma Guns, Mesh Armor and Undersuits. That kind of firepower with six other guys to act as meatshields, is pretty good.

Alternately, here's a 7-fighter Venator list:
 
Alternately, here's a 7-fighter Venator list:
That's a pretty strong gang. But why have you given your champions stat profile 1? They are clearly designed to be shooting, and profile 4 is objectively better for that.

Also, the skill choices seem a bit weird. Fixer? Really? And I can understand taking hip shooting on one guy (although I don't think it's particularly strong with a boltgun), but two is definitely over-doing it.
 
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Regarding the Champs, I liked the additional movement and the flexibility of having a 3+ WS. Obviously, they don't currently have melee weapons, but in a campaign, I'd finish kitting them out after a couple of matches.

Regarding skills... we established a while back that we disagree about Hip Shooting. :cool:
 
Regarding the Champs, I liked the additional movement and the flexibility of having a 3+ WS. Obviously, they don't currently have melee weapons, but in a campaign, I'd finish kitting them out after a couple of matches.
First of all, that profile doesn't have WS 3+. And second, why would you not choose the best BS possible when the only weapon you have is a ranged one? Movement is much cheaper to upgrade later if you need it.
 
If you reset your equipment, your Outcast Leader and Champs could all have Plasma Guns, Mesh Armor and Undersuits. That kind of firepower with six other guys to act as meatshields, is pretty good.

Alternately, here's a 7-fighter Venator list:
I think I'm a bit spoiled coming from VS, an outcast champ with 4 BS feels like a bad platform for a good gun......(hence original long rifle, las projector and infra to compensate!).......but I guess it's all relative!
 
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