Necromunda Sevastopol Sector terrain and gaming blog

[KRVSH]

I really like them, but I understand the problem and probably would look for something more natural myself. I can tell you what I would do, but that includes the risk of messing it up completely. I'd try breaking up any patterns and use different rust shades in irregular way, like flicking or stippling. I'm using very dilluted dark browns like burnt umber up to cadmium yellow and even skin tones for rust, so there's many options to create interest. I also like to use chalks in white spirit to create a crusty appearance. Ususally, if I don't like it, I just paint over it again, so the old rust colors get worked into the recently added ones until I think it's ok.
It might also be an option though and pull it back a little, just in parts, to make it look natural and create contrasts.

 

[timdp]

Thanks KRVSH. Sounds like I need to make rust camo. Picked up some lighter rust colors today and will be trying them out and will play around with crusty stuff as well.

Nice score at a thrift store today:

Its a portable, folding Hot Wheels track that will turn into lots of walkways and catwalks. Each of the four pieces is 18" long and each lane is 35mm wide. Will cut them up into single and double width walkways in multiple lengths. Should generate 20+ walkways.

 

[KRVSH]

I've never seen it as camo, but yeah, there might be similarities. The problem with rust on large surfaces is, even if only subconsciously, that the viewer knows quite well how it looks in the real world. It's rather unusual the rust will have regular patterns in shape and color. So it's either the artificial look of a stylisation or an approach to realism. I really went crazy with my color pallet on some attempts, but now I find 5-7 different colors are quite alright to give it a balanced appearance. Staples usually are a burnt/raw umber, a burnt/raw sienna and at least a dark red ochre, so if you base your rust around these colors there's not much to go wrong. It's funny though how rust realism sometimes depends on your area it seems, as the more red rust some painters do looks less natural to me than the more yellow rust I do.

 

[timdp]

By camo, I meant more breaking up areas of similar color. The overall tone on the rust pieces is all the same. Think I need to add some lighter areas.

 

[timdp]

Seems to be raining walkways. Had planned to start working on structures after finishing the risers, but I guess its going to be walkways for a while.

Chopped up the Hot Wheels track with a bandsaw and worked on a prototype to see how they might look.

Something like 27 future walkways from 5 to 18 inches long. Most are in the 8-10 inch range.

Prototype

Had noted someone's use of modified O gauge railroad flatcars and gondolas here, so browsed around on ebay and came up with this auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/162087272551?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Five flatcars, five gondolas, all with trucks already removed plus some miscellaneous stuff for $27 shipped. That's 10+ nicely detailed walkways. Will only need to add a little Necro detail and then paint.

 

[KRVSH]

Brilliant loot! I only have few toy truck trailer so far, so I should really visit some flea markets looking for something like that, too. I do have some computerparts though, making great walkways as well. Like this one:

Good thing is there are already holes at the end, so if you add small pegs to your floors, you can easily change places but have the walkways staying in position where you put them.

Oh, and I don't know if you've been following my thread, so here's an example, where I tried adding conrast to a completely rusted surface. I think this can work quite well to put accents.

 

[timdp]

Yes, I am following your thread and love that rusted car. Will give that a try.

I have a bunch large boxes of stuff that is supposed to be turned into Necro scenery, including a number of computers and drives. Was going to start on structures, but now need to get the walkways and risers done so I have some room to work, so have lot looked into the computer parts boxes for a while for pieces like those in your pic.

 

[Blood Donor]

Next level rust painting. Really like the prototype walkway, and will be interesting to see what you do with the rail cars. The risers are great, easily one of the most fundamentally sound additions to a Necromunda terrain collection. That brick one especially, with the dirt smears and footprints, looks terrific. Will you do towers after the walkways? For me, functional terrain can fall into one of 5 categories: risers, towers, walkways, scatter, and thematic pieces.

 

[timdp]

Next level rust painting. Really like the prototype walkway, and will be interesting to see what you do with the rail cars. The risers are great, easily one of the most fundamentally sound additions to a Necromunda terrain collection. That brick one especially, with the dirt smears and footprints, looks terrific. Will you do towers after the walkways? For me, functional terrain can fall into one of 5 categories: risers, towers, walkways, scatter, and thematic pieces.

Yes towers will be done after the walkways. Had planned to do them after the risers but all this walkway material dropped into my lap so I'm running with it. I actually like the word structures better because I don't particularly like the design of the classic Necro "towers". They are far too open, so I think my stuff will be a little different.

VERY good point about the five Necro terrain categories. Breaking the terrain into different categories gives a more organized way to balance the production of terrain. "I think I need six towers, four risers, 10 walkways, 30 pieces of scatter and a thematic piece or two." Then you build that much terrain, lay it out on the table and evaluate the numbers. "OK tower numbers are good, but might want another riser. Need a few more walkways and quite a few more scatter pieces. Thematic pieces are working well, but I just though up another idea for a thematic piece, so its back to work...."

Side note: REAL railroad flatbed rail car bridge. Was at a WWII reenactment today up in California's Sierra Nevada mountains and saw a bridge on a dirt logging road that was literally made from a 50' railroad flatbed car covered with heavy wooden beams. Still had all the load rating and capacity info marked on the side of the steel beams. Underneath you could see the mounting points for the wheel trucks. Was very strange because there are no railroad lines nearby and no way to get a line into the narrow canyon where the bridge is. Pics next time I go up there...

 

[timdp]

A bookcase purchase at Goodwill has escalated into a week long plus, full scale game room reorganization including two additional bookcases. Which then escalated even further into a reorg of the junk room as well. Still working on the project, so no Necro stuff being done.


Old pic of the 4'x8' game table under piles of stuff! You can just see the green table edge and green indoor/outdoor carpet in the lower right of the pic. Note Necromunda box in the lower left.

Clean (ish) table with boxes of partially painted Necromunda scenery in the left corner and the new black bookcases.

As long as the table is clean we might as well set it up for Necromunda, right? Risers, unfinished walkways and scatter terrain. Starting to look interesting....

 

[Kon-rad]

Lovely table. I think your man-cave is bigger than my apartment.

 

[KRVSH]

Lovely table. I think your man-cave is bigger than my apartment.

Reminds me of that one time Adam Savage retweetet a guy, showing his workbench in "just a single garage" and I thought duuude, that single garage is bigger than the place I live. Either that's an american instagram filter, another type of lense or they just have other dimensions over the pond.

 

[timdp]

LOL, man cave! I think there has to be a more appropriate term for the space... Nerd nook, holestead, something. I'm sure you guys can come up with something better.

Re the space, its a room built over a slightly enlarged 2 car garage and yes, we do have other dimensions on this side of the pond (more below). The house was a typical three bedroom California ranch style house at 1700 sq. ft. (158 sq. meters) on 1.4 acres (.567 hectares) of hillside. Made a deal with the wife when we bought it that we would add a work/game room. Having 4-5 people over for gaming on a 4x8 gaming table does not leave much work space in a small bedroom, and I was owner of Armorcast at that point and so needed additional space. The room is 22' x 22' (45 sq meters) including a 13' x 30" closet that is mostly occupied with reenacting gear.

There is a thread on Dakka about showing people's work/gaming spaces. Might be fun to start one here too.

Spaces really are bigger in the US than in Europe. Have been to mainland Europe and the UK a number of times and the scale of the countries is completely different. Most major European countries are comparable in size to US states. The US has 40 times the area of the UK. California itself is 1.75 times as big as the UK. Texas is nearly 3 times the size of the UK. Eleven of the 50 states are each larger than the UK.

All of this makes it a bit easier to spread out a bit if you can get out into the country. Our place was modestly priced when we bought it in 1997, although the real estate market in the last few years has gone completely crazy... Enough rambling for now...

 

[timdp]

BTW for any of my pics, if you click on them it takes you to the pic on Photobucket, If you then click on the ghost magnifying glass in the upper right corner, you will get a much larger version of the pic.

 

[King Redwart]

Great stuff. I really enjoyed looking through your photos. I love the amount of scatter you have

 

[timdp]

Thanks! I think my new motto is: You can never have too much scatter terrain. Will now try to break my new motto...

 

[Blood Donor]

That scene has always made me want to get one of those screwdrivers. To this date, favourite movie.

...There is a thread on Dakka about showing people's work/gaming spaces. Might be fun to start one here too...

There is one here as well.

Bookshelves are great, awesome to see all your great looking Underhive terrain finally spread out over a table surface

***EDIT: What are Bagel Dogs? Lol.

 

[timdp]

That scene has always made me want to get one of those screwdrivers. To this date, favourite movie.

Screwdriver?

There is one here as well.

Bookshelves are great, awesome to see all your great looking Underhive terrain finally spread out over a table surface

***EDIT: What are Bagel Dogs? Lol.

Its a good start!

Bagel dogs are all beef hot dogs baked into a bagel dough bun. Was my basic lunch at Armorcast. They come frozen, sixteen to the box shown in the pic. Pull one out of the shop fridge freezer and throw it in the microwave for three minutes = instant hot lunch. We used the boxes at the shop and plenty of them came home with me. They make great temporary storage boxes.

http://www.drsteinsbageldog.com/

 

[Azzabat]

Well. ... At 45 square meters, your room is nearly twice the size of my entire flat (27 square meters). But then I DO live in the town Center of the second most expensive, and THE most congested city in the UK.

I remember having a Rec Room the size of the entire house footprint as a kid in Canada. And all we did in there was play cards! There just isn't the space over here in the Uk. = (

 

[Blood Donor]

Is that not the scene towards the end of The Blues Brother when they are in the elevator and in order to make all the police, firefighters, and military men take the stairs, Elwood takes off the control panel and hits it with the aerosol glue and a lighter to melt all the wiring? If it is, he has this telescopic screwdriver that works by pushing inwards, and the internals spin to remove the screws in that action.

If it is NOT that scene, then I shall borrow a card from @trollmeat's deck and state "Don't mind me, I have no idea what I am talking about".