OK, so I'm having a bit of a quandary. Just wondering if I should buy Dark Uprising? Or wait for Hive War? Or Option 3 being to buy neither of course. I just wanted to put my musings down in writing. Maybe my comments will help others make their own minds up. If you see a flaw in my logic then please feel free to say so as well of course.
So let's look at Dark Uprising first:
Firstly, the gangs / models. Personally I am planning to get a Palanite Enforcer gang at some point. It's great that there are 6 Subjugators in the box, though I could really have done with 10 Enforcers as well. Only having 5 is not great, I think for a good starter gang I want the full box. I can buy the other 5 models on Ebay I suppose, though the cost will likely be a bit more than the cost of half a box of Enforcers.
As for the Corpse Grinders, it looks like Dark Uprising comes with enough models for a campaign, which is great. I wasn't really planning to start a gang of Corpse Grinders, though the models aren't bad so I might paint them up at some point anyway (rather than try to just sell the models).
So assuming I'm happy to start both an Enforcer gang and Corpse Grinder gang that's worth about £65 on the UK GW site. (£13 for the Enforcers, £26 for the Subjugators and let's call it £26 for the Corpse Grinders).
The gangs I actually plan to create for Necromunda are:
Orlocks (planning to make this my main gang)
Palanite Enforcers
Slave Ogryns (already own 6 models, not assembled yet)
Genestealer Cult (already have all the models I need assembled and painted, since I own a Genestealer Cult force for 40k)
The other main thing in Dark Uprising is all the terrain. I could certainly make use of this. My question is, is it just a case of getting one Zone Mortalis Columns and Walls set and one set of Zone Mortalis Platforms and Stairs? So in UK money on the GW website that would be £87.50?
Another key thing (for me) is the rulebook. I already own a digital copy of the current rulebook, though a physical copy would be nice, for reference. My question: will Hive War have a better / more up to date rulebook? Hard to answer this question at the moment I guess since Hive War hasn't been released yet.
Other than what I have already mentioned Dark Uprising comes with:
– Double-sided play surface
– All of the dice, tokens, cards and templates needed to play
Which is all nice, though hard to put a value on. So by my calculations the set is worth (to me) £152.50 for the miniatures and terrain, plus a hard to quantify figure for the rulebook, play surface, dice, tokens, cards and templates. So on the surface of it a retail price of £175 isn't too bad. Especially if I can find a new copy for less than retail.
So let's look at Hive War now:
I don't think the price of Hive War has been announced yet. I'm going to assume it'll be £175, same as Dark Uprising.
Miniatures
I love the old metal miniatures for both Escher and Delaque, I have more than one of each model already. The Escher even feature prominently in my 40K Imperial Guard army (mostly made up of old Eschers, old Orlocks and old metal Catachans). The new models for both Escher and Delaque don't really appeal to me though. I find the Escher to be too flamboyant and the Delaque too alien. I appreciate the aesthetic and playstyle of both, the models are just not for me I think.
Terrain
The terrain seems less complete than with Dark Uprising. Sure, you get walls and barricades, but where are the ladders and stairs? I appreciate I can buy these separately. I dunno, the terrain for Dark Uprising just appeals to me more. Is the value of both box sets the same when it comes to terrain though?
The Rest
As for the rest, Hive War seems to be similar to Dark Uprising. My big question though, is the rule book updated? Is it significantly better to use this rulebook than the Dark Uprising one? Hard to answer at the moment.
So that's it, my thoughts on Dark Uprising vs Hive War. I appreciate it basically comes down to personal preference, though at the moment I'm thinking of biting the bullet on Dark Uprising now, before it is discontinued and sells for silly money on Ebay. Mainly because the gangs in Dark Uprising appeal to me more than the Hive War ones do.
Any thoughts on the above are most welcome. Especially if you think I'm not comparing the two sets correctly.
So let's look at Dark Uprising first:
Firstly, the gangs / models. Personally I am planning to get a Palanite Enforcer gang at some point. It's great that there are 6 Subjugators in the box, though I could really have done with 10 Enforcers as well. Only having 5 is not great, I think for a good starter gang I want the full box. I can buy the other 5 models on Ebay I suppose, though the cost will likely be a bit more than the cost of half a box of Enforcers.
As for the Corpse Grinders, it looks like Dark Uprising comes with enough models for a campaign, which is great. I wasn't really planning to start a gang of Corpse Grinders, though the models aren't bad so I might paint them up at some point anyway (rather than try to just sell the models).
So assuming I'm happy to start both an Enforcer gang and Corpse Grinder gang that's worth about £65 on the UK GW site. (£13 for the Enforcers, £26 for the Subjugators and let's call it £26 for the Corpse Grinders).
The gangs I actually plan to create for Necromunda are:
Orlocks (planning to make this my main gang)
Palanite Enforcers
Slave Ogryns (already own 6 models, not assembled yet)
Genestealer Cult (already have all the models I need assembled and painted, since I own a Genestealer Cult force for 40k)
The other main thing in Dark Uprising is all the terrain. I could certainly make use of this. My question is, is it just a case of getting one Zone Mortalis Columns and Walls set and one set of Zone Mortalis Platforms and Stairs? So in UK money on the GW website that would be £87.50?
Another key thing (for me) is the rulebook. I already own a digital copy of the current rulebook, though a physical copy would be nice, for reference. My question: will Hive War have a better / more up to date rulebook? Hard to answer this question at the moment I guess since Hive War hasn't been released yet.
Other than what I have already mentioned Dark Uprising comes with:
– Double-sided play surface
– All of the dice, tokens, cards and templates needed to play
Which is all nice, though hard to put a value on. So by my calculations the set is worth (to me) £152.50 for the miniatures and terrain, plus a hard to quantify figure for the rulebook, play surface, dice, tokens, cards and templates. So on the surface of it a retail price of £175 isn't too bad. Especially if I can find a new copy for less than retail.
So let's look at Hive War now:
I don't think the price of Hive War has been announced yet. I'm going to assume it'll be £175, same as Dark Uprising.
Miniatures
I love the old metal miniatures for both Escher and Delaque, I have more than one of each model already. The Escher even feature prominently in my 40K Imperial Guard army (mostly made up of old Eschers, old Orlocks and old metal Catachans). The new models for both Escher and Delaque don't really appeal to me though. I find the Escher to be too flamboyant and the Delaque too alien. I appreciate the aesthetic and playstyle of both, the models are just not for me I think.
Terrain
The terrain seems less complete than with Dark Uprising. Sure, you get walls and barricades, but where are the ladders and stairs? I appreciate I can buy these separately. I dunno, the terrain for Dark Uprising just appeals to me more. Is the value of both box sets the same when it comes to terrain though?
The Rest
As for the rest, Hive War seems to be similar to Dark Uprising. My big question though, is the rule book updated? Is it significantly better to use this rulebook than the Dark Uprising one? Hard to answer at the moment.
So that's it, my thoughts on Dark Uprising vs Hive War. I appreciate it basically comes down to personal preference, though at the moment I'm thinking of biting the bullet on Dark Uprising now, before it is discontinued and sells for silly money on Ebay. Mainly because the gangs in Dark Uprising appeal to me more than the Hive War ones do.
Any thoughts on the above are most welcome. Especially if you think I'm not comparing the two sets correctly.