N18 Skills - House Rules Feedback Needed

Discussion in 'Rules, Mechanics & Skills' started by Jacob Dryearth, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Jacob Dryearth

    Jacob Dryearth Gang Hero

    In a few weeks I'll be starting my third campaign as Arbitrator since N17 was released, and in this time I've come to notice that certain skills are avoided like the plague. Some have no use in certain circumstances, or are strictly worse than similar characteristic increases, or they need some clarification. Whatever the case, here are my proposals to fix them in my campaign. Some ideas were taken from the forum or YAQ.

    The rules below do not replace any skills, only add to them.

    Backstab: Any attack which benefits from the increased strength of Backstab also gains an additional -1AP. (was strictly worse than strength)

    Ballistics Expert: When this fighter aims, they may pre-measure the distance to one target enemy fighter. (was strictly worse than BS)

    Cat Fall: When this fighter is removed from the board after falling into a pitfall, they may make recovery in the end phase as if seriously injured. No friendly models may aid them, but if they roll a flesh wound, place them Active and Pinned as close as possible to the spot they fell from. (was useless in 2d)

    Clamber: The Crawl Through (Double) action is a Basic action for this fighter. (was useless in 2d)

    Connected: If a Juve or Specialist has this skill they may take the trade post-battle action, but do not grant a bonus to the rarity roll. (was useless for most fighters)

    Infiltrate: This skill cannot be used by the defender in a scenario with the sneak attack rules. (did not play well with sentry rules)

    Trick Shot: This bonus does not stack with an infra-sight. (clarification)
    Did I miss any skills that need help? Ballistics Expert was the one I was struggling to find a rule for, the pre-measuring seems useless other than for selecting the right weapon profile.
  2. Cyreth

    Cyreth Juve
    Honored Tribesman

    I've changed some more skills, so this might be interesting for comparison:

    Note that I haven't brought my house rules up-to-date since the new books have been released. But as they haven't really touched the skills ...
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  3. Thorgor

    Thorgor Of The YAQ

    I don't get what this is supposed to do as the Trade action does nothing but give you a +1 to the rarity roll now.
    You may also want to change Savvy Trader, as it's another skill that is currently useless for Juves and Specialists.
  4. Jacob Dryearth

    Jacob Dryearth Gang Hero

    Hmm, an earlier draft of this post included the note that I still limit rare purchases in Dominion campaigns. Savvy trader is useless unless they have my uodated connected. I should change it.

    I like your Ballistics expert, and I may steal it. I may have gotten the agilty skills from you as well, if you've posted them before. I wanted to avoid neefs, except where the rules just don't work (infiktrate), if I touch fast shot the 3 Van Saar players in my campaign will revolt!
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  5. Cyreth

    Cyreth Juve
    Honored Tribesman

    Steal away!
    I've posted the skills before, but only together with all my other house rules. Others have suggested similar changes to Catfall and Clamber, so I really can't take credit for those. :)

    I'm the only Van Saar player in our campaign, so I just nerfed myself. Fast Shot is still a great skill, I think. But I understand your hesitation -- players hate to have something taken away from them, so that, instead of making one thing worse, it's almost always easier to make other stuff better.

    Regarding Infiltrate: Instead of changing the skill itself, I've changed scenarios in which you should not be able to use the skill or other methods of infiltration (see link to my house rules in the other post if you're interested): Escape!, Last Stand, Settlement Attack, Shoot-out, The Gauntlet. I might have missed some, and I'll have to think about scenarios with the sneak attack rules. That hasn't yet come up in our group. :)
    #5 Cyreth, Jan 10, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2019
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  6. TopsyKretts

    TopsyKretts Gang Hero

    I love the changes to skills that were limited to 3d only!
  7. Jacob Dryearth

    Jacob Dryearth Gang Hero

    Not my original idea, taken from someone on this forum. I don't remember who originated those, I reworded them.
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