N18 Van Saar Tech Skills interaction

[Hobo86]

If I take a Van Saar Archeotec with:
- torsonic cybernetica
- weaponsmith & gadgeteer
- a heavy bolter

Do I get a bs+2, rapid fire (3), plentifull heavy bolter?
I'm not 100% sure how the wording from gadgeteer should be interpreted.

"GADGETEER
If this fighter is in the starting crew, prior to the first turn, they may modify the Weapon Traits of any weapon they carry that has the Plentiful trait. If they do so, until the end of the battle the weapon loses the Plentiful trait and gains one of the following, as chosen by the controlling player: Knockback, Pulverise, Rending or Shock. Alternatively, a Plentiful weapon with the Rapid Fire (X) trait can add one to the X value. E.g., a Rapid Fire (1) would become Rapid Fire (2)."

"WEAPONSMITH
Any weapons this fighter is equipped with lose the Scarce trait if it has it. Any weapons this fighter is equipped with will gain the Plentiful trait if it does not have the Scarce trait. Weapons that already have the Plentiful trait gain no additional benefit from this skill."

 

[Lunarcruiser]

You lose the Plentiful trait to regardless.
The additional Rapid fire dice is just an additional option for those weapons.
The key word is Alternatively. The Plentiful is the base requirement. Then you replace the trait.

 

[Hobo86]

ok, I've got an answer from 2 native English speakers, (another on a discord)
so both skills can't be combined to get rapid/3 plentiful... still a rapid 2 plentiful heavy bolter is a er... valid weapon.

thank you for the clarification

 

[Lunarcruiser]

You could get a rapid fire 3 one for a insane amount of shots but will probably get jammed for the whole game the first time you shoot it
Or a rapid fire 2 one that automatically reload. Which almost entirely avoid the 6+ ammo value.
Take the Rapid fire 2 version.

 

[Lunarcruiser]

Alternatively you can swap out the Plentiful anyway with one of the four traits which all work pretty well on a heavy bolter.

 

[Hobo86]

I think I'll stick with the heavy bolter rapid 2 plentifull
(gunk bolts are another option)

an autocannon with rapid 2 (and knockback) might also do its part...