What I've been doing recently, a painting and modelling log...

[Malevolent Pink Cat]

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I think he looks great! Really nailed the look from the original artwork!

One question though - why would you start by doing the gold trim (which is raised, and therefore easier to get at) rather than the recessed red?

 

[Raven Morpheus]

I think he looks great! Really nailed the look from the original artwork!

One question though - why would you start by doing the gold trim (which is raised, and therefore easier to get at) rather than the recessed red?

Thanks.

I started with the gold because it's easier to be a bit messy and cover the sides as well as the flat areas of the trim, then carefully infill the red. In theory.

I've done metal Chaos Terminators (2 of 8 so far), the other way (red first then gold/brass/bronze trim) and lost the zenithal highlights I did due to having to tidy up.

In the grand scheme of things I don't think it matters for me which way it's done, I still seem to end up back and forth tidying up anyhow.

 

[Wasteland]

Thanks. I started with the gold because it's easier to be a bit messy and cover the sides as well as the flat areas of the trim, then carefully infill the red. In theory. I've done metal Chaos Terminators (2 of 8 so far), the other way (red first then gold/brass/bronze trim) and lost the zenithal highlights due to having to tidy up.

In the grand scheme of things I don't think it matters which way I did it, I still end up back and forth tidying up anyhow.

That´s the way to paint CSM. Drybrush the rim with a metal colour and fill in the main colour afterwards.

 

[Malevolent Pink Cat]

I'll have to try that approach - I've always done exactly the opposite. Thanks both.

 

[Raven Morpheus]

For me, I think the key improvement would be to get the model a bit more planted in place - he looks a little daintily perched on the skulls and from some views a bit unbalanced.

Yup, the position on the skulls was always going to be problematic, especially without making a major flat spot (which I wanted to avoid).

There's a few other things wrong with the pose now I've CA glued everything in place. The shoulder pads for example fitted better when held on with just black-tac. I should have stuffed green stuff in there to fit them or just left the black-tac. That stuff is mega sticky!

It is what it is, the subject matter defies physics anyway...

 

[Raven Morpheus]

I seem to be on a roll...

I sat at the table for a couple of hours tonight and pushed on with the Wolf Priest of Ulric kitbash for WFB/Mordheim.

I started with an airbrush undercoat of Vallejo model air white, followed by corvus black + Vallejo metal color magnesium (roughly 50/50) on the metal parts -

I then used fireslayer flesh, celestium blue, apothecary white, blood angels red, wyldwood and snakebite leather contrast paints, mephiston red, white scar, corax white, caledor sky paints, VMC magnesium, and silver paints, and ended up with this -

The base had a coat of TTC battle mud wash (over the stirland mud I put down the other week) and got a drybrush of TTC temple stone.



Nearly finished, not bad for a couple of hours effort.

And my photos look reasonable for a change...



Thanks as always for looking, C&C welcome.

 

[Ben_S]

It turned out that the 1989 UK version differs slightly from the later 1990 US version (mostly the rules/quests/some expansions, the board/tokens/miniatures are the same) and Hasbro's version is based on the 1990 US version (almost verbatim).

I know my version of HQ had some subtle differences from a friend's, in particular some different equipment cards. I was always curious about whether there was a different 'edition'. I don't know how either of us would have ended up with a US version though.

 

[MusingWarboss]

I know my version of HQ had some subtle differences from a friend's, in particular some different equipment cards. I was always curious about whether there was a different 'edition'. I don't know how either of us would have ended up with a US version though.

The UK version was tweaked over its run, the most obvious being the Heroquest Advanced edition (not to be confused with Advanced Heroquest which was a different game entirely) which came with some plastic henchmen in red.

But the rules and things were tweaked before that:

HeroQuest: Different Versions page

 

[Raven Morpheus]

Sat at the table for a short while tonight and assembled some of my recently acquired BFG stuff...


I started with the "Dauntless" light cruisers, a simple matter of push fitting in the flying stem. No glue used, not even on the base -

Because I had 3 flight stands out of a pack of 5 left I push fitted them into 3 "Iconoclast" Chaos escorts, these needed a tiny bit of sanding down to achieve a push fit, again no glue -

Then I assembled the "Emperor" class battleship, again no glue on the flight stand -

So far so good with the BFG stuff, the "Cobra" destroyers will need a hole drilling to push fit flight stands into, but obviously I can't do that in the middle of the night...


Thanks as always for looking, C&C welcome.

 

[Hobo86]

i just bumped into a source with scans of the 'old' models of inq, 'munda and mordheim
I don't think I can share them here, but send me a pm if you'd like to be pointed towards the source

 

[Raven Morpheus]

More of a musing/rambling post tonight, too humid in my part of the world to sit at the table...


Mordheim city of the damned...


A few years ago I was playing the video game, and that inspired me to get into the tabletop version of Mordheim, so (as well as buying/building terrain and having only ever played 1 game) I started collecting warbands. So far I have witch hunters, "Sisters of Sigmar", Cult of the Possessed and Dwarf treasure hunters warbands, and I've been planning for a long while a human mercenaries warband.


This is my human mercenaries warband in the video game (the only "flavour" you get is Reiklanders) -

I have a GW Empire captain that I could use, painted and based up a number of years ago, for WHQ '95, which could quite easily fit into a Reiklanders warband -

The video game is also what partly inspired my kitbashed Wolf Priest of Ulric (he's the only Middenheim flavour you get)-

A number of years ago I bought an Ogre, Brutogg Corpse-Eater, from WHQ Cursed City, for use in WHQ '95/Mordheim, but I'm not overly keen on him as a specific warband member, he's more of a "dramatis personae" kind of looking figure rather than a hired sword wearing "gang colours".

This is the Ogre in the video game -

The other day I came across these, by Wargames Atlantic, so I've bought a box of them (they're on their way from Wayland Games) -

I think one of those painted up in Reikland colours will look great. Plus I can use them in Heroquest because they're a box of 9! (For less than £30!!)

I've also bought some GW Ogre Irongut armour bits (the round bit over the belly) to add to make for a more video game look.

They come with "Conquistador" style helmets but that's fine because "Janie" (yeah she's got a gun), my marksman in the game, wears one so it's a "valid look" that references the video game -

However...


...I'm kind of stuck what to use for other human mercenaries "bodies".

I don't want to use Frostgrave stuff, reasons.


The best I can come up with for Reiklanders is using GW handgunners, state troops, and greatswords, or the OG militia box set.

I've also mulled over a Middenheimers warband, but my best attempt at an idea for those is using Teutogen guard and/or handgunners/state troops and sticking White Wolf knights heads/cloaks on them, and painting them with a "Space Wolves in the Old World" look.

Both of those ideas will just end up looking like I've lazily plucked figures from WFB units and they're not really for Mordheim!

I've considered Highland Miniatures stuff, but having bought their not-Balthasar Gelt (twice in 2 different scales) and some of their handgunners, I'm not impressed.

I've also looked at Vae Victis, and nothing of theirs grabs me.


Would appreciate some thoughts/recommendations on Reiklander/Middenheim warband figures, not the OG metal ones (as GW only made youngbloods, champions and captains)?




My crazy mind also wants me to build a 4ft bridge, like this, oh my!!

Hmmm... One day... Maybe...




Thanks as always for looking, C&C welcome.

 

[Malevolent Pink Cat]

I mean, you can still pick up Mordheim miniatures on ebay regularly, and whilst some sellers want the earth for them, you can sometimes get some bargains. For my money the original human warband miniatures were all excellent.

Edit - for eg, 5 middenheimer models for £70:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13765586...8No+dtNKuvQmEWCcGpv3WenFIQ==|tkp:BFBM2ISLppNo

 

[Hobo86]

More of a musing/rambling post tonight, too humid in my part of the world to sit at the table...


Mordheim city of the damned...


A few years ago I was playing the video game, and that inspired me to get into the tabletop version of Mordheim, so (as well as buying/building terrain and having only ever played 1 game) I started collecting warbands. So far I have witch hunters, "Sisters of Sigmar" and Dwarf treasure hunters warbands, and I've been planning for a long while a human mercenaries warband.


This is my human mercenaries warband in the video game (the only "flavour" you get is Reiklanders) -
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I have a GW Empire captain that I could use, painted and based up a number of years ago, for WHQ '95, which could quite easily fit into a Reiklanders warband -
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The video game is also what partly inspired my kitbashed Wolf Priest of Ulric (he's the only Middenheim flavour you get)-
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A number of years ago I bought an Ogre, Brutogg Corpse-Eater, from WHQ Cursed City, for use in WHQ '95/Mordheim, but I'm not overly keen on him as a specific warband member, he's more of a "dramatis personae" kind of looking figure rather than a hired sword wearing "gang colours".

This is the Ogre in the video game -
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The other day I came across these, by Wargames Atlantic, so I've bought a box of them (they're on their way from Wayland Games) -
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I think one of those painted up in Reikland colours will look great. Plus I can use them in Heroquest because they're a box of 9! (For less than £30!!)

I've also bought some GW Ogre Irongut armour bits (the round bit over the belly) to add to make for a more video game look.

They come with "Conquistador" style helmets but that's fine because "Janie" (yeah she's got a gun), my marksman in the game, wears one so it's a "valid look" that references the video game -
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However...


...I'm kind of stuck what to use for other human mercenaries "bodies".

I don't want to use Frostgrave stuff, reasons.


The best I can come up with for Reiklanders is using GW handgunners, state troops, and greatswords, or the OG militia box set.

I've also mulled over a Middenheimers warband, but my best attempt at an idea for those is using Teutogen guard and/or handgunners/state troops and sticking White Wolf knights heads/cloaks on them, and painting them with a "Space Wolves in the Old World" look.

Both of those ideas will just end up looking like I've lazily plucked figures from WFB units and they're not really for Mordheim!

I've considered Highland Miniatures stuff, but having bought their not-Balthasar Gelt (twice in 2 different scales) and some of their handgunners, I'm not impressed.

I've also looked at Vae Victis, and nothing of theirs grabs me.


Would appreciate some thoughts/recommendations on Reiklander/Middenheim warband figures, not the OG metal ones (as GW only made youngbloods, champions and captains)?




My crazy mind also wants me to build a 4ft bridge, like this, oh my!!
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Hmmm... One day... Maybe...




Thanks as always for looking, C&C welcome.

-check the mordheim discord, we've collected stl and boxed mini sources and and there are some really great ones!
amongst others; last sword miniatures, moshartz, axia miniatures, heresy lab, grimforge, ...
there are also some great terrain artists on that er... most creative of discord groups
definitively check the conversion bits sections - I added a middenheim reference there
-I recently bumped into a bunch of OG mordheim miniature scans and I can point you towards them if you're looking for those
there is also somebody recasting OG mordheim stuff somewhere, but I don't have that info

for mercenary bodies:
moshartz or reptilian overlords have posable kits, but there are 'a lot' off options out there.
grimforge, lastsword, magori, the og Gw militia kit are also options

 

[Ben_S]

Have you considered these?

Conquistadors

FOR KING! FOR COUNTRY! FOR GOLD! The men who plundered the Americas were typically adventurers down on their luck and willing to risk all to change their fortunes. Many were well-trained mercenaries in service to the kings of Europe who vied among themselves to control land, people, and the...

wargamesatlantic.com

Perhaps a little too much armour, if you're strict on WYSIWYG, but they should fit alongside the ogres.

If you want less armour, you could try these:

Foot Serjeants (1100-1320)

SERVANTS OF WAR "Serjeant" taken from the Latin "serviens" meaning to serve, were the lower-ranking warriors of a lord's army. Whereas knights typically came from a noble background, the serjeants rose up through the ranks. Professional soldiers, they were well armed and armored and played a...

wargamesatlantic.com

 

[Hobo86]

(per warband there are sub channels with multiple sources from all over - there really are 'a lot' of mordheim compatible minis out there)

new (this year) creative interpretations, compatible historical or fantasy models, D&D, reïnterpretations of the old stuff, even 15mm mordheim specific stl

 

[Fold]

I think the warcry hunters kit with the dogs would make a great base for all sorts of mordheim goodness.

I’d LOVE to see that bridge happen

 

[Raven Morpheus]

I’d LOVE to see that bridge happen

I'd like to but...

Even if I made it modular it'd be 4ft (duh) by about 15" tall by 12" wide. I just don't have the space to store it. It's one of many pipe dreams.


I'll take a look at some of the suggestions so far, thank you gentlemen, much appreciated.

 

[Arnulf]

I have a bit of an obsession with landsknechts. I have probably looked at every Landsknecht miniature available at this point so I can help a little with Reiklanders. Some good options:

• Warlord Games sells Landsknecht and early modern European soldiers by the sprue
• Wargames Atlantic has the conquistadors that mix well with their classic fantasy Guards box. The guards box has lots of female head options amongst other great bits like handcuffs, rope and keys
• Etsy has loads of stuff if you search 28mm Landsknecht miniatures, some of them pretty flavorful

I think for Middenheimers taking some of those same minis and making sure they have beards or bare heads (few helmets, especially not fancy ones) with hammers and wolfpelts will go a long way towards giving them the right feel. If you're in the US I probably have a couple of extra warhammers from the 6th edition Empire knights if you can't find anything.

Edit: A quick look on etsy and their are a number of wolfpelts and "Norse" heads available for purchase. Even a hammer or two in some of the flavor packs..

 

[Raven Morpheus]

It's Friday, so I spent a couple of hours at the table...


Battlefleet Gothic...

The other day, whilst over-tired, I tried drilling deeper holes in the BFG "Cobra" destroyers, it's safe to say I made a complete mess of it -

So I bought some 3x1mm magnets and today set about trying to fix them (magnet on stand, magnet in hole on ship) -

So, far so good, hopefully the magnets will stay attached...



Mordheim, city of the damned...


I've bought my Reiklanders starter warband!

I worked out why I don't like GW's current (20 year old) Empire state troops and missile troops which were introduced for 7th edition WFB. It's because they've been de-landsknechted! They mostly look like they're just wearing a onesie!

So, I went looking for, and found, some earlier handgunners, these are plastic 6th edition WFB Empire, I bought them as a set of 8, 2 of each pose, they're not GWs best monopose sculpts but were less than £10, so bargain!

I bought a Wargames Atlantic Conquistadors weapons sprue which has a couple of heads I wanted -

For the "warriors" I finally found some mercenaries and militia figures I like - 3d prints by Reptilian Overlords. This is how they came -

So, I did a bit of kind of knolling and put bits into a slightly more ordered fashion -

Reptilian Overlords also do landsknecht spearmen and handgunners which I may buy some of for another "project" if I ever get around to doing so...


Continued in next post due to image limit.

 

[Raven Morpheus]

Continued from last post.

I set about assembling the four "warriors" my starter warband has, they look OK next to the GW handgunners -

I did a head chop & swap on one of the 2 handgunners I'll be using, using one of the WGA Conquistadors heads -

Comparison with new head, I thought the conquistador head looked a bit small on the sprue, but it looks fine on the figure -

I'm waiting on 2 GW current greatswords which will be my champions, and I need to buy 3 more halberds as you only get one in the RO set. There's some gaps between the upper and lower bodies of the RO 3d prints, but I can probably fill those - I should have sanded all parts flat before CA gluing them.

I'm happy with these so far though.


So, to sum up, the warband will be pretty much wysiwyg (weapon-wise, any armour should be ignored) and as follows -

Empire captain (done a few years back, see post above for image).
2 champions - GW plastic empire greatswords.
2 marksmen - GW 6th edition WFB empire handgunners.
4 warriors - Reptilian Overlords 3d prints, 3 with GW arms/weapon.
1 Wargames Atlantic Landsknecht Ogre for later...



Thanks as always for looking, C&C welcome.