Which Mordheim version to use?

[Basileus]

Hello Yaks

I think about getting back to Mordheim, after all the inspiration from Echoes of Imperium. But I remember Mordheim having some balancing issues, some issues with shields etc. And I was wondering which game rules and updates are "commonly" used nowadays, especially by all those folks playing Mordheim MMXIX. Haven't found rules talk on the blog or their member's Instagram accounts etc. (Haven't asked there either, ahem.)

Still have the original rulebook, been following a little over the years and know the Google Drive with all the docs – But was wondering about the current community state of the game. If there is any.

Cheers

 

[spafe]

Not been playing recently, but my suggested go to house rules if a new starting group are:

dont use lustria or kemhria setting warbands
ban shadow warriors warband
Give shield an additional bonus of +1sv when combined with a hand weapon in combat
give duel weilding weapons a -1 to hit modifier (possibly then introduce a skill called duel wielding to remove this penalty)
remove nurgles rot from carnival warbands (or nerf in some way, many options are available)
smack any skaven player over the head who sling spams with the rulebook repeatdly

Finally, enjoy the remaining inbalances are part of the fun of the system and remember it isnt meant to be perfectly streamlined and balanced.

 

[Aulenback]

Locally, we generally just use the main book as available on Broheim or here in the Vault, and the scattering of warbands and rules except for Lustria and Khemri [so yes to sets like Empire in Flames, Border Town Burning, Mutiny in Marienburg], and the second Beastman Raiders list rather than the first Beastman Raiders list.

Fun additional sets of rules to use include the "Let it Burn" fire rules.

The shields offering an extra +1 save in close combat works well to offset the assumed advantage of two hand weapons.

 

[AlexanderW]

Hi, for Mordheim 2019 we used the original rulebook. It worked well enough, but we played in a relaxed friendly way. Of course having Tuomas Pirinen there to help with any conundrums was a benefit. The rules works without any tinkering as long as all players keep an open and happy attitude.

 

[Scavvierising]

Give spears the same unwieldy rule as morning stars.

 

[Zamerion2]

Has anyone adapted the new necromunda's style rules?

Alternative activations, demoralization system...

I think it would bring a lot of life to this game

 

[Lurtzo]

dont use lustria or kemhria setting warbands

Is there a list where I can see which "set" each Warband belongs to?

ban shadow warriors warband

Yeah! I have it in mind from the first time I saw it XD

 

[spafe]

Is there a list where I can see which "set" each Warband belongs to?

yes... brief search gave me this:

Broheim | Warbands

from a quick scan down there, all 1a stuff is fine bar the removal of nurgles rot from carnival of chaos.

If you want any feedback on other stuff, just ask and I'll try and give you a bit of a view on them. Not saying I have played even half of those, but should be able to give you some pointers on how powerful/abusable they would be.

Of the 1a stuff, if you strip rot, skaven are the most abuseable with sling spam, but otherwise they are all much of a muchness.

 

[Aulenback]

Broheim really is a good and comprehensive resource.

Lustria Warbands:

Forest Goblins	Goblin	2	LUS | PDF
High Elves	High Elf	2	LUS | PDF
Lizardmen	Lizardmen	2	LUS | PDF
Skaven of Clan Pestilens	Skaven	2	LUS | PDF

Khemri Warbands:

Arabyan Nomads	Human	3	KHE | PDF
Arabyan Theives	Human	3	KHE | PDF
Cursed Dwarves	Dwarf	3	KHE | PDF
Hobgoblins	Goblin	3	KHE | PDF
Lahmian	Vampire/Undead	3	KHE | PDF
Mages	Human Wizard	3	KHE | PDF
Necromancer	Undead	3	KHE | PDF
Nehekhara Tomb Guards	Undead	3	KHE | PDF

The column headers on the Warbands page are buttons - click on "source" and it will sort them that way, though things like the halfling list from the Citadel Journal will list "CJ" as the source, while the intent is either for main Mordheim or for Empire in Flames [also a good campaign setting, generally balanced with the original warbands].

 

[Luke82]

Has anyone adapted the new necromunda's style rules?

Alternative activations, demoralization system...

I think it would bring a lot of life to this game

My buddies and I are using a dice draw mechanic for Mordheim and it’s great, combat can get a bit crowded but it’s a blast, would struggle to go back to igougo now.

 

[Willnox]

What's dice draw mechanic entail?

 

[Luke82]

We put a specific coloured die (could be a any token, we just have lots of different coloured bolt action order dice) for each warband member in a bag, then draw one at random each time, if it’s your die you activate one of your blokes. It’s really good for us as we nearly always play 3+ players so you don’t get any down time, you never know if it will be your die next so have to keep adjusting your plans each time a new die comes out.

 

[Talarius]

Has anyone adapted the new necromunda's style rules?

Alternative activations, demoralization system...

I think it would bring a lot of life to this game

Yes, there’s “Mordheimunda” a 50+ page pdf @ www.alwaysstrikesfirst.com that converts Mordheim to the N17 core rules. I just heard about it yesterday and downloaded the pdf a minute ago… so I couldn’t say how good it might be.

 

[Willnox]

Can we upload that here?